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    Hi all not ww2 I have recently bought an UCK helmet and I have been offered an UCK beret ,my question is this ,are Yugoslavian conflict items being reproduced or is this a genuine item ,thanks Rob
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    When j had my tour in Kosovo, these things where allready heavily locally reproduced in Kososo. Actually these were sold at markets and even outside the US Camp Bondsteele. This looks to me to be a reproduction but probably "made in Kosovo"

    Cheers Jens

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      The one i got ,the patch is a little smaller and i got in camp Bondsteel but mine could be repro also? Who knows theyll do anything for money there but i cant blame them really

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        Thanks Flieger ,the seller is asking 15 Euros for trhe beret and 3 patches ,so I will take a chance for that sort of money ,I hadnt really looked into the patches or the history of this conflict before ,but you can get Arkans Tigers patches and all sort on ebay a truly horrific and confusing war ,Rob
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          Uck

          J Think Flieger is right about the patch size.

          J have two sizes myself and J believe that the size on the beret is the armpatch, if anything in a militia can be called regular

          Best Jens

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            Originally posted by Jens
            J Think Flieger is right about the patch size.

            J have two sizes myself and J believe that the size on the beret is the armpatch, if anything in a militia can be called regular

            Best Jens
            Heres a pic of the arm patches ,still you cant go wrong with 15 Euros ,and will display nicely with the helmet .Rob
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              Yeah you cant go wrong with that price,and how do you say its a repro when it was made in Kosovo and during the war??? i think the KLA was even wearing the "homemade" stuff

              Eric

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                Helmet arrived this morning thought you might like to have a look ,whats really nice its camo'ed ,the sellers picture did'nt show this ,Rob
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                  Robb,


                  I'm not aware of fakes but I'm sure they exist. You could buy as early as Sept '99 badges and flag's etc on the streets of Pristina. But then you had their Flag Day in October and the elections so there were loads of flags, which are Albanian not Kosovan, thats what you have on the side of your helmet.

                  I was with the first ground troops AGRICOLA 1 and the first full length tour by British troops I spent 7 months plus in that hole including Christmas and the New Year 2000 (great I'd just spent the previous X mas & NY in Bosnia yet again)

                  The beret badges were as I remember just round badges, active troops still up to illegal activities wore dark red and black ones which were smaller overall. They had berets sure but you'd see them mostly in camo 'base ball' style army caps with red/yellow badges. The badges you show are all post conflict.

                  The early conflict style badges were a 'jumble' mixture of plastic and cloth/home made. The plastic one's having holes top and bottom to sew on the badge.

                  The shield type ones were worn from memory on the left arm in no particular place. I have as much time for the KLA- UCK now TMK as I do the IRA.

                  TMK is of course Kosovo Protction Corps.

                  We spent a bit of time in their HQ on the outskirts of Pristina and even conducted an operation which lead to the arrest of one of their KLA-UCK generals for war crimes.


                  Kr

                  Marcus
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                    Thanks for that Marcus ,I suppose its very diferent for someone who has been there ,rather than someone who just tried to make heads and tails of what was going on out there on the news. I went to the library to find some books about the conflict in Bosnia and it wasnt pleasant reading ,Rob
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                      Hi all,

                      I was there in the first day of june 99 (and in makedonia since february...) at the end of july it started to be difficult to find UCK badges and beret , i only have one UCK badge and one beret with badge and they are "home made". I think that all that you can find is local made but afterwar. For the helmet it's a French helmet (i'm not 100% sure it's "war" made, UCK soldier wear equipment from Switzerland, Germany, and Serbia, i've nerver seen UCK "soldier" with French helmet , but maybe???? )
                      herlé
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                        Originally posted by ROBB
                        Thanks for that Marcus ,I suppose its very diferent for someone who has been there ,rather than someone who just tried to make heads and tails of what was going on out there on the news. I went to the library to find some books about the conflict in Bosnia and it wasnt pleasant reading ,Rob
                        Yeah those guys were in bad shape When i first went to Brcko(Bosnia) i was amazed at the damage done, the entire town was destroyed and i even have a picture of a dog house ( maybe a pig house ) with an RPG hole in it now what kind of person would fire an RPG at a dog????
                        Eric

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                          sorry to bring this back to the top ,but the Beret arrived today ,and it has got a small badge as you can see in the photo ,Rob
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