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    Afrika helmet opinions please

    hi guys,

    My friend bought this Afrika helm. The pics not too good, but I hope, that you will can to help me.

    his questions are:

    what do you think, who was this marker ( JHS ) and wich troops used it in Africa.

    regards Gabor
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                  Hi, it is a 2nd pattern Heer (army) pith and it was made by Johann Hückel und Söhne (JHS).

                  This type of pith was issued from 1941 onwards, though there is little evidence that they were used in Africa, instead they are thought to have mainly been used in Greece and other hot places.

                  JerryB

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                    Originally posted by VonBond View Post
                    Hi, it is a 2nd pattern Heer (army) pith and it was made by Johann Hückel und Söhne (JHS).

                    This type of pith was issued from 1941 onwards, though there is little evidence that they were used in Africa, instead they are thought to have mainly been used in Greece and other hot places.

                    JerryB
                    hi Jerry,

                    Many thanks. I'm very glad for your comment

                    regards gabor

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                      Originally posted by Gabenn View Post
                      hi Jerry,

                      Many thanks. I'm very glad for your comment

                      regards gabor
                      I have always wondered whether this picture shows a 2nd pattern pith in use, as its in lots of books on the Afrikakorps. Anyone agree and also, does anyone know where and when this was taken?

                      I have another version which really makes it look like a 2nd pattern.

                      Thanks, JerryB
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                        Hi Jerry,

                        This picture is beautiful

                        regards Gabor

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                          Hi Jerry

                          That photo is from Italy '43. So confirming the 2nd pattern was used in other tropical theaters other than Afrika. A few 2nd patterns show up in photos of the captured equipment piles in Tunisia (probably from replacement troops) at the end of the African campaign, not the DAK however, it had ceased to exist at that point...2nd patterns show up in the Ukraine, and Southern France too.

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                            Originally posted by Tim O'Keefe View Post
                            Hi Jerry

                            That photo is from Italy '43. So confirming the 2nd pattern was used in other tropical theaters other than Afrika. A few 2nd patterns show up in photos of the captured equipment piles in Tunisia (probably from replacement troops) at the end of the African campaign, not the DAK however, it had ceased to exist at that point...2nd patterns show up in the Ukraine, and Southern France too.
                            Thanks for the info Tim, I have long wondered where it was taken.

                            As I said, in my first post, there is little evidence for use of 2nd pattern piths by the Dak.

                            JerryB

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