The "HEAVYWEIGHT" Fakes

[sturmbannfuhrer]

I first recall these popping up in the 80s, and always thought Diebel made them--they are not Jankes or Altestes, and will still fool 90% of collectors.

Those Mullers are a real pain, I know a few who have fooled big time collectors. When you know the logo on this one shown has a few problems you weed this type out quite easily, keep bringing them on Chris.

[NTZ]

Those Mullers are a real pain, I know a few who have fooled big time collectors. When you know the logo on this one shown has a few problems you weed this type out quite easily, keep bringing them on Chris.

I agree. Fortunately I own a few real Mullers so I spotted them in a New York second.

[sturmbannfuhrer]

Hi Nick, I just picked up another Muller to go with that Admin I showed you about a year ago, this new one was straight off German Ebay.

A stripped Artillery that was an NCO. I have it for my own collection, so NCO strap and black buttons plus a nice set of metal insignia are on the way.

This is the first NCO Private purchase Muller Heer cap that I have seen. The seller was the grandson. I will post some pics when it is ready.

It is nicely marked with a proper Muller logo.

JT

[stonemint]

Finally found this pic--this is a fake Reichleiter "made" by GAH--note the imitation velvet. IMO, they used all-original insignia on these (except for the SS series):

[robertdmountfor]

Finally found this pic--this is a fake Reichleiter "made" by GAH--note the imitation velvet. IMO, they used all-original insignia on these (except for the SS series):

Actually, no..this party insignia was specially commissioned for James Brown at 'Extra Klasse'. Made in Birmingham no less!

[stonemint]

Robert--I agree, on this one, the insignia is probably repro, or original faded zinc sprayed with gold spray-paint. I have seen fakes of this series with the fire-gilding.

I forgot to mention, these fakes often (but not always) have the "snake eating its tail" piping joinder instead of being abutted or overlapped.

(BTW, has anyone seen a period hat with the snake>tail piping? I never have, but there is always a first time....)

[stonemint]

"CRIHA" HJ-leaders by this same faker--note the same brushed cotton band instead of black velvet:

[stonemint]

Interior of above CRIHA HJ:

[stonemint]

Remember, these are not Jankes. Close up of fake logo:

[Robert H]

and who produced (original) white top SS visor caps?

[gmg]

who make this fakes??

[stonemint]

This "Diplo" just popped up on Ebay(for $6,500 )--note the exaggerated peak, and the thin brim on either side of the top piping:

[stonemint]

Good work on the insignia, but the piping is the glittery mylar:

[stonemint]

Wreath:

[stonemint]

Looks like another ersatz s/b: