Bergmütze from eBay

[sander vw]

Very nice!!!!

[BergführerKiser]

(sigh)

I guess I'm bucking the consensus on this one. Just to be clear, I'm not referring to the different color thread for the buttonholes. In this instance, the buttonhole type on the subject cap is made with a specialized machine using buttonhole "gimp" and I'd expect it to be different.

What I was questioning was the 2 colors of top stitching, one nearly on top of the other, on the ear flaps as seen best in Post #3. It goes against my sense of logic of economy of scale to have small lots of differing thread fed out to assembly workers in the same plant for similar sewing operations. I'm not saying this necessarily makes a cap bad...just a trait I'd want to look at closer and understand why rather than just blithely accepting it.

I do believe the insignia is probably a replacement.

Paul

Grüß Gott Paul und Bergkameraden,

I think you hit the nail on the head in refering to the buttonhole machine. The extra stitching around the ends of the ear flaps is because of the extra material that is added to the back side of the flap ends for reenforcement of the buttonholes. These portions of material are both machine sewn and hand stitched (a blind stitch on the backside). Perhaps this is done by the person adding the buttonholes at a different sewing machine thus the different color thread. MHO.

Another thing to remember is that most of this work was done by small cottage industries...not big factories....thus we have lots of variations to deal with.

I think Kris scored a great Bergmütze. The photos posted are the ones from the ebay auction. I'm sure we will see better details once Kris gets the cap in hand.

Here's a wartime Gebirgsjäger portrait showing the T-Form Adler sewn on like a trapezoid:



Berg Heil!

[Lenny W]

Grüß Gott Paul und Bergkameraden,

I think you hit the nail on the head in refering to the buttonhole machine. The extra stitching around the ends of the ear flaps is because of the extra material that is added to the back side of the flap ends for reenforcement of the buttonholes. These portions of material are both machine sewn and hand stitched (a blind stitch on the backside). Perhaps this is done by the person adding the buttonholes at a different sewing machine thus the different color thread. MHO.

Another thing to remember is that most of this work was done by small cottage industries...not big factories....thus we have lots of variations to deal with.

I think Kris scored a great Bergmütze. The photos posted are the ones from the ebay auction. I'm sure we will see better details once Kris gets the cap in hand.

Here's a wartime Gebirgsjäger portrait showing the T-Form Adler sewn on like a trapezoid:



Berg Heil!

i agree about the different color thread being used and i dont question the "T" type insignia in the trap configuration but the way it was applied to the cap it looks like it might have been applied post war

[billbert]

Yes I two agree the sewing job appears unusual.....Billbert

[Christian_GJR3]

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Hey kameraden,

thanks for your opinions so far. I'll let the money go today, and we'll see the rest when I'll receive the cap. (until than, I'll work on me photo skills... )

Horrido! Kris

[Christian_GJR3]

Bergmütze had arrived at last

Hey,

Imagine, that your cap is dissapearing for 27 days, without any notifications, however correct address on package, etc.

This is, what happened. From the moment the package arrived to Hungary, nobody knew about it anymore. Inquiries from both sides, but finally the Hungarian "Post" made up their minds, and sent it back to Austria to the seller with 'undelirevable'... finally a courier company delivered it without any problems.

Please check the additional photos I made.

Checking it from the inside, and the thread itself I'm positive that it's untouched.

[Christian_GJR3]

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Sewing job is not the nicest, but good IMHO.

[Christian_GJR3]

3

Stiffener inside by means of a woolen stripe sewn on the front inside.

How common was this feature?


Thanks again for looking, and always appretiating your comments!

Kris

[Lenny W]

imo reaplied insignia but still a nice cap (Stiffener inside by means of a woolen stripe sewn on the front inside.

How common was this feature?) a feature found on original bergmutze. glad you finally got your cap ,sorry though you were done posting pics

[Christian_GJR3]

Thanks Lenny!

Gromet with olive paint

[Christian_GJR3]

gromet inside

inside

[Christian_GJR3]

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inside front

[Christian_GJR3]

One more time

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[Glenn McInnes]

Insignia,for me looks to be hand sewn to simulate zig zag machine stitching.Nice hat though.






Glenn

[Christian_GJR3]

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Further examination of the inside doesn't show any trace of manipulation of the lining. How could be the resewing possible without opening the lining? Otherwise, in colour and useness the insignia matches, too.