SS Pz.M43

[SJP]

This piece is currently on estand....several doubter's, myself included.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=258235
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Cheers Steve

[Daniele C]

Insignia looks good,
The way its stitched and the hat itself looks to be a modern repro IMO

[Tommaso]

Nothing against this very one, but personally I've got more than enough of those trap things....5 period pictures in which they are depicted but 5000 caps still around nowadays

[besslein]

the cap look bad imo,the trap is original,I have never seen a insignia sewn in this way to the cap

[besslein]

original cap

[B. N. Singer]

....several doubter's, myself included.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=258235
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Cheers Steve

Add me to the list of those who could entertain a doubt.

B. N. Singer

[Lasse Kongo]

Add me to the list of those who could entertain a doubt.

B. N. Singer

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Agreed

Lasse

[Luca Ongaro]

Can you post a photo of the behind the buttons?
Luca

[BenVK]

Well, I guess that the Panzer M43 I've had for ages is a modern repro as well then is it?
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=101555

[90th Light]

Gentlmen, an observation on my part;

every wool M43 cap with an SS trap is declared doubtful or bad on this forum.

One can only conclude from this subjective analysis that the Germans did not make M43's in wool with an SS trap let alone use them.

One member has stated that there are only 5 pictures of such a cap in use and I bet those ones were made out of that smooth Italian cloth which was used and not good old fashion German wool let alone Italian wool.

I mean show me an original which is accepted apart from the Dachau type and even with those only certain ones are liked.

We have reach a dangerous cross-road here however were good caps are declared bad because people simply can not tell so they err on the side of caution. Surely we can develop an ability to do better than that ?

All I can say about the cap for sale on the e-stand which started this thread is that some things look good and some look bad but to say more, I would want a hands-on inspection. I have seen both original and reproductions up to that standard. Certainly at $3500 it does not turn my wheels

I must add however that the zig-zag way the trap is sewn on is no absolute sign of a reproduction. I have seen that on both period made items and reproduction items.

The cap is not for me but are we being too tough on this seller, Chris

[m.alex]

zig-zag

What do you think, why couldn't be possible if a first pattern insignia (Be-vo insignia with double row of teeth) were sewn on a cap with zig-zag stiching (in end of the war - 1944)?
Alex

[Luca Ongaro]

Well, I guess that the Panzer M43 I've had for ages is a modern repro as well then is it?
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=101555

Hi Ben, not a modern repro IMO.
I am always waiting for a picture behind the buttons but honestly I like as this cap is done, materials seem textbook, size number and button holes are correct too but these pictures are really bad and I recommend you to make betters with day light.
Just a question Christian_GJR3, can you confirm me this, is the same cap? (please look at datails) I can not see by yours bad pics and if is it IMO you have a nice original on your hands.
Is always dangerous put bad pictures on discussion the risk is an original cap could be considered a fake.... hand inspection is always needed
Luca

[Luca Ongaro]

Is the same sitching ?

[BenVK]

Here's another similar cap that Ray owns. I hope he doesn't mind me posting photos. I know it's not Pz but the interior is a match and if I had to bet, I'd say it's from the same factory.

[BenVK]

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