Parteigericht visor cap circa early 1936

[stonemint]

Bob, I am 90% sure this is the same Viro/Willy Rohe/Carl Bangert visor pictured in the Shutt book on page p 16.

[Gregory Koepp]

This is an interesting cap likely made during the implementation of the 3rd pattern NSDAP insignia. We see the change from the tellermutze to the stylish saddle shape. Note the 1936 pattern eagle with the head turned to the left. I believe this to be an early unmodified pattern of this eagle. The cap is private purchase marked "Willy Rohe, Koblenz, Schlosstr.45."
I hate pulling back old leather sweatbands to show the RZM tag. It is present marked Hersteller 1/17

Bob the Eagle looks as it is facing "RIGHT" not left

but a very nice cap though!

greg

[stonemint]

Here is more confusion--a Zapf visor with a Viro logo. I would like to know what Viro's patent was that they had pending--anyone know?

[stonemint]

PS--Bob, that still is the nicest Form 3 visor I have ever seen....

[NTZ]

Ok, I have a wild theory. Maybe Viro was not a company at all. Maybe VIRO was just an acronym for the patent? It is only found in the form of a small sticker and seems to be used by different makers and/or distributors. It is possible that someone in the industry (maybe even a civilian haberdasher) held a patent with the acronym VIRO?

[enorepap]

hallo my friends

a new mistery like the Hertlein's one...

Well, I think we have some starting points:

- Carl BANGERT was a Mutzen-Fabrik located in KOBLENZ, Stegemannstr. 11;
- G. ZAPF was a distributor, located in KASSEL, Kolnischestr. 12. He sold visors made by KUTRIKA (KASSEL, Hohenzollernstr. 87); KASSELER MUTZENFABRIK (KASSEL, Kolnischestr. 33); VIRO (?);
- Willy ROHE was a distributor, located in KOBLENZ, Schlosstr.45.

There is no real evidence (and I have consequently to apologize for my previous mistakes!) that Willy ROHE (WI-RO) = VIRO.

But, we have now two towns and, in my opinion, we have to search at first for an enterprise located in KOBLENZ or KASSEL and led by (or named to) Mister Vi...RO...

[enorepap]

I have found an evidence into my files against my own theory

there was a VIRO distributor also in MAINZ, whose name was Heinrich Hammerlein. Maybe, Nick's theory could be well founded!

[stonemint]

Well, here is evidence Bangert was using the Viro logo going back to at least 1912:

[stonemint]

Looks like Bob's cap went across the Atlantic, and is now for sale on the estand--I would almost buy it out of pure sentimentality.....

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=993470

[der-hase-fee]

Looks like Bob's cap went across the Atlantic, and is now for sale on the estand--I would almost buy it out of pure sentimentality.....

So is it Parteigericht or Ortsgruppe ?

[stonemint]

So is it Parteigericht or Ortsgruppe ?

Ortsgruppe.

[N.C. Wyeth]

Although I am sworn to being a strictly "Heer" kind of guy, I recall seeing quite a few of these at the SOS . . . with two being in near perfect condition - and having such a spectacular sattelform shape, I almost couldn't resist.
Fortunate for me, I managed to maintain my will-power.

[Mike H]

Sos

I thought I saw every visor at SOS -- but sure didn't see those.