"Deutsche Wertarbeit"--consensus?

[NTZ]

Yes Pascal, that is the type I have encountered a few times.

[stonemint]

Pascal--thanx for posting--I agree that "Deutsche Wertarbeit" is found on many original TR visors--it's the ones with the specific logo and font that I am concerned about, which is shown on the NSDAP Visor and the Generalstab--I am trying to find an agreed wartime-era example in this particular font and style.

[Bob Coleman]

I Have Never Encountered A Genuine Example With The Logo That Started This Thread. Therefore, The Question Is, Is It A Total Fantasy Or Did The Fakers Copy It Fom An Original Example? My Thoughts Opt For The Firstr Option. I Have Discovered That There Is No Logic To What The Fakers Do. In Some Cases, There Logic Is Reverse To Confuse Us Poor Collectors.

[stonemint]

Thanks for your input, Bob--there were at least 3 NSDAP Visors that I have seen on various German Dealer websites that hat this specific logo with this exact font, to include Gau and Reichs lever--they usually are stonemint, and have the thick-ribbed twill body--they look real good in the pics, but there is just something about them that didn't sit right with me--and I believe they had different Hersteller #'s, but the RZM tags looked "right as rain."
The Generalstab is the first I have seen it used on a WH visor, but that hat appears to be a standard Janke, so the others may have been Jankes with replaced sweatbands--who knows. I am inclined to believe that it is just a fantasy maker's mark, and is not copied from an original. Only time will tell (and I am sure we will start seeing minty NSDAP visors missing their sweatshields in short order).

[stonemint]

Ron--I'll add the HJ Leaders cap logo to this thread for comparison:

[stonemint]

Now, this one is throwing me--it is on an NSKK visor on Von Lukaks site--the visor doesn't follow the same shape/wool of the NSDAP visors with this logo, but I still have my doubts:

[enorepap]

Hi all

This is the first DEUTSCHE WERTARBEIT SONDERKLASSE I ever saw...

http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...MEWA:IT&ih=005

Some remarks:

- from the front view it appears oversized and not well centered;
- from the inner view it seems that the visor and the sweatband were re-stitched. The lining looks quite well but the diamond isn't well centered and doesn't show the stirndruckfrei inscription;
- the chinstrap and the oakleaf wreath look untrimmed in comparison with the fabric.

What do you think about?

[knopf]

Hallo stonemint,
it gives in Dillingen a. Donau a company with the name
Seemüller & Mühlhauser Pelzhaus, Am Stadtberg 3, 89407 Dillingen,
Tel: 0049-9071-9053.
I think the firm of Anton Seemüller is this company today.
best
Knopf

[stonemint]

I just want to make clear that I am referring ONLY to "Deutsche Wertarbeit" in this particular font. You will commonly find it on many legit TR visors, such as this admin Shea has on his site:

[stonemint]

Sorry to bring this old thread up again, but its for my own edification. I am beginning to believe that this was an actual logo from the Third Reich era, but was commonly faked afterwards. Here is the logo on one that looks wartime--note the stirndruckfrei system. The seller lists it as a "Viro" (Willy Rohe of Koblenz) but I see no indication of the same.

[stonemint]

This is the exterior of the above interior:

[stonemint]

Found another which I believe to be original on a LW visor:

[stonemint]

This one also (imho) is 100% original. Like Peter said in another thread, I think this logo was used by different makers. This one has the Stirndruckfrei system:

[stonemint]

Above hat:

[derek]

The only maker I have linked this logo to is Carl Bangert of Koblenz.
Derek