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    Heer officer's M43 cap - with a surprise

    Ever seen anything like this? It is old, worn and moth eaten. But is it of wartime production?
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    Notice the nice orange lining. Hmmm, what is the origin of this cap?
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      #3
      Origin revealed!
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        #4
        Mr. Davis, I was going to say, I could entertain a doubt but, that is an interesting "relic"!

        B. N. Singer

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          #5
          Mike,

          I was wondering why you were asking about this hat...You had me worried





          Glenn
          "A Man's Got to Know His Limitations"

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            #6
            Hows about a better shot of the crown piping??

            B. N. Singer

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              #7
              hello,
              this is a collector beginner !
              for me it's a fake cap :
              * plastic button
              * insigna fake ( if it's a good one, cut me a arm ! )
              * very strange color inside manufacture

              final opinion for me, this is a 1950-60 fake cap

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                #8
                Here you go gents. I wonder what old film this was made for? I must say that it looks better than some of Hollywood's creations (or some of the caps I've seen posted here).
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Wolften View Post
                  hello,
                  this is a collector beginner !
                  for me it's a fake cap :
                  * plastic button
                  * insigna fake ( if it's a good one, cut me a arm ! )
                  * very strange color inside manufacture

                  final opinion for me, this is a 1950-60 fake cap
                  Ah, well, yes of course. The MGM tag is a bit of an indicator. We're just having a bit of fun.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Mike Davis View Post
                    Ah, well, yes of course. The MGM tag is a bit of an indicator. We're just having a bit of fun.

                    Frankly, I would like to own the thing, if not too "dear"!!!!!!!!!!!

                    B. N. Singer

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by B. N. Singer View Post
                      Frankly, I would like to own the thing, if not too "dear"!!!!!!!!!!!

                      B. N. Singer
                      It is yours then.

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                        #12
                        Very interesting. I wonder if the studio had the trap insignia printed as well. There was another thread that showed the same eagle. The trap sure looks convincing. If they did produce it, makes you wonder about some of the other printed insignia out there.

                        http://www.wehrmacht-awards.net/foru...hlight=printed

                        WR Jim

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                          #13
                          I always thought these Heer trapazoid eagles to perhaps be late war original. Heer,W-SS printed breast/sleeve eagles are considered original so why not traps.

                          I have seen some of these old movie props that used original insignia but not this type.


                          Glenn
                          "A Man's Got to Know His Limitations"

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Glenn McInnes View Post
                            I always thought these Heer trapazoid eagles to perhaps be late war original. Heer,W-SS printed breast/sleeve eagles are considered original so why not traps.

                            I have seen some of these old movie props that used original insignia but not this type.


                            Glenn
                            Hi Glenn,

                            I agree but thought movie props might make a nice discussion. The MGM tag is a property tag. Doesn't mean the studio produced it. They certainly could have. Right after the war studios had a ton of captured stocks they used. For pre war/wartime movies the uniforms and insignia had to be made. The insignia was usually crude looking, eagles as big as Turkeys etc. Maybe in the 50s/60s it appears that studios started having uniforms/insignia produced again. Seemed to be a large demand based on the number of WWII shows Hogans Heroes, Combat etc.

                            Which category does the hat and insignia fit into. What movie was it used in. If the studio produced it for a specific movie etc, I would assume it was used. Captured clothing didn't necessarily get used. I don't have the answers-a close examination of the hat might reveal more.

                            Might make a nice discussion topic. I've certainly seen stranger caps than the one posted, in wartime pics.

                            WR Jim
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                            Last edited by djpool; 11-04-2006, 11:05 AM.

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                              #15
                              Hi Jim,

                              The movie studio tag is machine sewn to the caps interior with the same thread and style of stitching used to construct the hat so I assume that this film studio constructed it.


                              It only makes sense to me that if the Army constructed printed breast eagles then why not trapazoid insignia (late) To be honest I don't know if this printed trap (which is hand sewn to the hat and looks convincing considering some of the funky looking original insignia produced late war) is original or not but I would give it a chance of being real. (the insignia,not the hat)



                              Glenn
                              Last edited by Glenn McInnes; 11-04-2006, 11:25 AM.
                              "A Man's Got to Know His Limitations"

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