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    SS cap eagle

    does the egale have to have diagonal wing endings cos this one i show has vertical ending on a side cap so it is kind of like a rectangle

    #2
    Hi Wolffen, the regulation SS cap eagle, both in cloth and in metal, has wing tips which are this shape >. The one you descibe is the Heer (Army) eagle, which has a wing tip shaped like this, 7.
    Hope this answers your question?
    Cheers, Ade.

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      #3
      The wing sape is like "I" it is on a ss cap with a death skull black. the has a stamp inside and all RZ marking but the eagle does not look right to me

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        #4
        Hi Wolffen, here is a M40 pattern Waffen SS Infantry feldmutze from my collection. This picture is small, but it shows the correct regulation SS insignia. This would be just the same on a black Panzer feldmutze. If the cap you are looking at is different from this, then it is not good.
        Hope this helps you?
        Cheers, Ade.
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          #5
          it does not have the triangle white thing only the skull and eagle

          CAN THE markings in the cap be faked ? thjey look good it have the name of the gauy and all like a big table thing with info

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            #6
            Hi Wolffen, the white insignia is called a "Soutach" this shows that the man was an Infantry soldier. Each arm of service wore a different colour, Pink for Panzer, Lemon Yellow for Signals, etc.
            The cap does not need to have a soutach, as these were discontinued later in the war.
            Ink stamps and lables are very easy to fake! Ink stamps are cheap to make.
            I would recommend that you buy a new book about cloth headgear if you are interested in collecting caps. It is called "The collectors guide to cloth Third Reich military headgear" by Gary Wilkins. You can buy it here:
            http://www.therupturedduck.com/WebPages/Books/bk19.htm
            Cheers, Ade.

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              #7
              overseas cap

              Wolffen,
              Here is an example of original SS m40 panzer

              <h2> INSIGNIA </h2>


              <h2> CAP </h2>





              Next, here is a bad reproduction offered on Ebay or Epier last year. See if you can notice differences between the two.
              Stamps are easily faked. Look at the cap construction and the insignia.
              <h2> CAP </h2>


              <h2> SKULL </h2>


              <h2> EAGLE </h2>



              Please post picture of your cap for comparison! Although the images of original are of an officer's white piped field gray m40 with a pink panzer soutach, the cut of an enlisted m40 cap should be the same as this. Original SS caps were not cut the same as the luftwaffe version. The top center seam on the SS cap was offset to the right. The cap's front peak closest to center should be slightly higher than the the peak toward the offset. The side skirts should have a sexy curve with the highest point of curve 2/3 to the rear of the cap.
              Note the bone and eye structure of the reproduction skull I have posted. Also the strange body and head on the eagle. Finally observe that the eagle has no feet (talons). Then take a good look at the beautiful original BEVo insignia on the officer's version.
              There is no comparison between the two!
              Kopfjager
              Last edited by ReichsHeini; 12-05-2002, 11:02 PM.

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                #8
                it is the eagle is similar the straight edge. It is in a shop the guy wants 400 for it. Will try to take picks of it and ask you guys

                Last edited by Wolffen; 12-08-2002, 02:54 PM.

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                  #9
                  I went to look at the cap again the eagles body is like 50% of the one in a picture in size that is the head is more round and the circle around the swaz is just a circle does not have the this > symbol shapes in it guess it a fake

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                    #10
                    thx for all the help guys
                    Last edited by Wolffen; 12-08-2002, 03:05 PM.

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