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    unissued LW tropical side cap

    This minty LW side cap, dated 1942 came from a local tropical collector who was thinning the collection. Somebody else said it was a typical Statni Film Czech unissued cap. The large inked number is typical for Statni.
    What do you guys think? Value?
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    Last edited by NickG; 04-09-2020, 09:29 PM.
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    The Statni "722" looks to be a fake. The "1942" & "58" look to have been stamped from the same stamp pad at the same time ?

    The images are not good enough to make a proper call one way or the other about the cap or eagle.

    However, I am thinking fake based on those stamps

    Chris

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      #3
      Thanks. I had some concerns with the inked stamps too....which is exactly why O osted it...
      and I was hesitant myself about this purchase but a friend who has Czech roots and very familiar with artifacts from CZ
      said without hesitation that it was text book Statni.... The insignia is certainly 100% good...
      More opinions?

      in materials (lining and outside) , stitching/construction and LW insignia it is an EXACT twin of this Berolina marked cap
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        #4
        I would be double checking that one Nick,

        never heard of one that needed stamps added to because it did not already have a makers stamp.

        Also every fake "722" stamp that I have ever seen was in a fake cap.

        Better images will tell one way or the other,

        Chris

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          #5
          OK thanks Chris...will make much better images in day light!
          The insignia is certainly 100% accurate/original and well attached by hand as it should...

          Here is another comparison...
          My "Statni Film 722" example side by side with an authentic "Berolina"
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          Last edited by NickG; 04-09-2020, 11:30 PM.

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            #6
            Does the Berolina have an ink stamped size or hand written pen size in it ?

            Chris

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              #7
              Another comparison...Berolina and my Statni Film 722 marked example...
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                #8
                Originally posted by 90th Light View Post
                Does the Berolina have an ink stamped size or hand written pen size in it ?

                Chris
                Only this...
                Maybe the size "58" + 1942 is real...crisp, straight and period.... and some clown added the Statni "722" film # to make it more convincing???
                Again in materials inside and outside, construction and insignia is right on the money IMO...Just s sloppy 722...but studio's didn't care about that...
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                Last edited by NickG; 04-09-2020, 11:58 PM.

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                  #9
                  Statni wasn't exactly very careful with stamping items...it appears...
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                    #10
                    Any more opinions? Last set!
                    Thanks
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                    Last edited by NickG; 04-10-2020, 12:46 AM.

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                      Originally posted by 90th Light View Post
                      The Statni "722" looks to be a fake. The "1942" & "58" look to have been stamped from the same stamp pad at the same time ?

                      The images are not good enough to make a proper call one way or the other about the cap or eagle.

                      However, I am thinking fake based on those stamps

                      Chris
                      Same ink used for the Statni 722 and the other stamping : surprising !
                      I won't dismiss this cap so easily but this markings question is weird ...
                      Somebody added some stamps to enhance the cap , more commercial ?
                      Nick

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                        #12
                        I like the look of it, looks well made, my gut instinct is its a good one....but I don't like any of the stamps.

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                          #13
                          Thanks guys. The cap is fine imo but the stamps indeed a little odd... Size stamp doesn't trouble me tbh. The 722 Statni code on the other hand could very well be a misconceived embellishment...Agreed.

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                            #14
                            Cut and stamps are bad, why not wait for a good, unquestionable example.... not that hard to find.

                            Robt.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by RGD51 View Post
                              Cut and stamps are bad, why not wait for a good, unquestionable example.... not that hard to find.

                              Robt.
                              I agree. At first glance, material and insignia "may" be good but it doesn't have a good banana shape expected on any luft OS cap.

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