unissued LW tropical side cap

[NickG]

This minty LW side cap, dated 1942 came from a local tropical collector who was thinning the collection. Somebody else said it was a typical Statni Film Czech unissued cap. The large inked number is typical for Statni.
What do you guys think? Value?

[90th Light]

The Statni "722" looks to be a fake. The "1942" & "58" look to have been stamped from the same stamp pad at the same time ?

The images are not good enough to make a proper call one way or the other about the cap or eagle.

However, I am thinking fake based on those stamps

Chris

[NickG]

Thanks. I had some concerns with the inked stamps too....which is exactly why O osted it...
and I was hesitant myself about this purchase but a friend who has Czech roots and very familiar with artifacts from CZ
said without hesitation that it was text book Statni.... The insignia is certainly 100% good...
More opinions?

in materials (lining and outside) , stitching/construction and LW insignia it is an EXACT twin of this Berolina marked cap

[90th Light]

I would be double checking that one Nick,

never heard of one that needed stamps added to because it did not already have a makers stamp.

Also every fake "722" stamp that I have ever seen was in a fake cap.

Better images will tell one way or the other,

Chris

[NickG]

OK thanks Chris...will make much better images in day light!
The insignia is certainly 100% accurate/original and well attached by hand as it should...

Here is another comparison...
My "Statni Film 722" example side by side with an authentic "Berolina"

[90th Light]

Does the Berolina have an ink stamped size or hand written pen size in it ?

Chris

[NickG]

Another comparison...Berolina and my Statni Film 722 marked example...

[NickG]

Does the Berolina have an ink stamped size or hand written pen size in it ?

Chris

Only this...
Maybe the size "58" + 1942 is real...crisp, straight and period.... and some clown added the Statni "722" film # to make it more convincing???
Again in materials inside and outside, construction and insignia is right on the money IMO...Just s sloppy 722...but studio's didn't care about that...

[NickG]

Statni wasn't exactly very careful with stamping items...it appears...

[NickG]

Any more opinions? Last set!
Thanks

[GAMS1]

The Statni "722" looks to be a fake. The "1942" & "58" look to have been stamped from the same stamp pad at the same time ?

The images are not good enough to make a proper call one way or the other about the cap or eagle.

However, I am thinking fake based on those stamps

Chris

Same ink used for the Statni 722 and the other stamping : surprising !
I won't dismiss this cap so easily but this markings question is weird ...
Somebody added some stamps to enhance the cap , more commercial ?
Nick

[eubank]

I like the look of it, looks well made, my gut instinct is its a good one....but I don't like any of the stamps.

[NickG]

Thanks guys. The cap is fine imo but the stamps indeed a little odd... Size stamp doesn't trouble me tbh. The 722 Statni code on the other hand could very well be a misconceived embellishment...Agreed.

[RGD51]

Cut and stamps are bad, why not wait for a good, unquestionable example.... not that hard to find.

Robt.

[Fsoq]

Cut and stamps are bad, why not wait for a good, unquestionable example.... not that hard to find.

Robt.

I agree. At first glance, material and insignia "may" be good but it doesn't have a good banana shape expected on any luft OS cap.