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    two wehrwolf buckles

    here two very rare wehrwolf buckles from ratisbons :

    https://www.ratisbons.com/18th-Conte...-s-buckle.html

    https://www.ratisbons.com/18th-Conte...CO-buckle.html
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    The officers is interesting. I have never seen the skull without the bones. The construction is like many Imperial officers buckles. The EM is the first one I have seen with the ugly claws. You these on SA buckles so I am not surprised to see it on a Wehrwolf buckle.


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      Originally posted by klr View Post
      The officers is interesting. I have never seen the skull without the bones. The construction is like many Imperial officers buckles. The EM is the first one I have seen with the ugly claws. You these on SA buckles so I am not surprised to see it on a Wehrwolf buckle.


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      Both buckles were times mine, I have received them about 35 years ago directly from the cleaners woman of the family from halle / saale. I had sold her two years ago on the wbk in kassel a dealer.

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        Originally posted by klr View Post
        The officers is interesting. I have never seen the skull without the bones. The construction is like many Imperial officers buckles. The EM is the first one I have seen with the ugly claws. You these on SA buckles so I am not surprised to see it on a Wehrwolf buckle.


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        The officers buckle has been adapted.

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          #5
          I have never seen one for "officers". Can we see a photo?

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            Here is the Officers that sold on Ratisbon. The bones are missing. Angolia shows one with the bones in his revised edition.


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              Originally posted by klr View Post
              Here is the Officers that sold on Ratisbon. The bones are missing. Angolia shows one with the bones in his revised edition.


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              Interesting, never seen before. And I have seen many photos. It could be from early Wehrwolf times 1923/24, when they used strange individual things. Unusual is the detail, that there are no bones and the huge size and stile of the "W".

              Thanks for posting!

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                Well, that guy used a Prussian officer buckle, removed the II and crown and only left the W. After that he added the skull where the crown was before. Even though private made I am sure the buckle is period.
                Best, Thomas

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                  Originally posted by planet View Post
                  Well, that guy used a Prussian officer buckle, removed the II and crown and only left the W. After that he added the skull where the crown was before. Even though private made I am sure the buckle is period.
                  Best, Thomas
                  I think the same, it can be a period buckle. Especially if it came from Halle. The early photos from the Wehrwolf shows many things, that are strange and unknown today. I have a 1924 photo with three (!) different kinds of skull armbands for example. Armbands, which I have never seen before.

                  PS: Until the end in 1933 they wore unique self made buckles.
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