Kriegsmarine belt buckle ?

[RJKG]

I've posted this on the KM Uniforms forum too, but any comments would be welcome in respect of this gold coloured belt buckle, which came into the possession of a friend of mine directly from a WW 2 veteran.

[Guido L.]

I know this type of buckle, but I don't think it's period.
It is a postwar production in my eyes.

[planet]

I agree with Guido.
Thomas

[Ric Ferrari]

Now I think this pattern deserves more investigation before discharging it like a postwar production, see pics of a specimen recently surfaced that I unfortunately missed it.

According to seller it's made by zink

Ric

[Ric Ferrari]

More pics.

Of course Maedicke marked tab couldn't belong to the buckle.

Ric

[ivanjoaquin]

I don't like the shape of the catch it reminds me of a know LW Drop Tail fake buckle

[klr]

Is it steel or nickel? The catch would make me question the buckle. I don't recall ever seeing a prong bar like this on a Heer or Luftwaffe buckle.


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[ivanjoaquin]

This is the fake buckle that I mentioned

[ivanjoaquin]

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[Guido L.]

Yes, indeed! The catch is a absurdity! I would expect here at least feet.

Additional I don't like the condition.
Both the buckles have a used look. But I am missing real traces from wearing.

[RJKG]

Thanks for the comments so far, but does anybody know whether a gold coloured, pebbled KM buckle was ever issued ?

It would appear to be odd if a repro was made of a buckle that was never actually issued.

[klr]

Kriegsmarine belt buckle ?

The only pebbled KM buckle I know of is a Belgium make Reitz style. Here is a photo Marc Verstraete posted many years ago. I couldn't find the thread but I don't think he posted a photo of the reverse. This could just be Reitz style Heer buckle painted gold.


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[RJKG]

I should mention that the buckle in question is non magnetic, so probably made of brass.

[Guido L.]

It would appear to be odd if a repro was made of a buckle that was never actually issued.

No one knows, what in the brain cells of Mr. Faker is going on.
But it is a fact that many many fantasy pieces are available on the militaria market.

[RJKG]

Yes, indeed! The catch is a absurdity! I would expect here at least feet.

Additional I don't like the condition.
Both the buckles have a used look. But I am missing real traces from wearing.

Just wondering whether the consensus of opinion is that all KM belt buckle catches incorporated 'feet' at the point of attachment to the buckle ?

I've seen SS and HJ buckles with catches that don't incorporate 'feet'.

Also, Reichsmarine buckles don't incorporate 'feet' on the catches, and, like the illustrated buckle are also made of brass.

Obviously the above observations aren't directly relevant to KM buckles, but do point to the fact that buckle catches do exist without 'feet' at the point of attachment.