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    Unmarked WSS buckle found today in a local bric-brac store in Vielsam, Ardennes...
    Came from a house cleaning in the area was the story and described as "WW2 German Buckle" with no reference to Waffen SS.

    Does it stand a chance?
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    More
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      #3
      Back side
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        #4
        Another
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        Last edited by NickG; 03-22-2016, 05:09 PM.

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          #5
          Overhoff ?

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            #6
            So it's an unmarked Overhoff? A late buckle?
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              And another
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              Last edited by NickG; 03-22-2016, 05:30 PM.

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                #8
                Last one...price was worth the gamble...shows wear too...
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                Last edited by NickG; 03-22-2016, 05:47 PM.

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                  #9
                  Fake

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                    #10
                    +1 not good

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                      #11
                      Thanks for the opinions so far. So it is pretending to be this one...(link below)
                      Honestly I don't see much difference, but willing to learn!


                      http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=849494

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                        #12
                        Compare roll over sections that overlap prong shroud. How warped they are.

                        Jack

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by NickG View Post
                          Unmarked WSS buckle found today in a local bric-brac store in Vielsam, Ardennes...
                          Came from a house cleaning in the area was the story and described as "WW2 German Buckle" with no reference to Waffen SS.

                          Does it stand a chance?
                          "Amazing" story provided along with this well known repro

                          Btw, counterfeiters modified it by adding what appears to be a real catch bridge. As a note this repro originated from Austria with a catch which is an obvious give away sign.

                          Ric

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                            #14
                            Thanks Rick and Cossack on your expertese comments.
                            I own the buckle you commented on.
                            I also own the known Austrian type RZM 36/42 fake and compared it with my Ardennes find. The fake I own is definitely different. (Less broad wings, different eagle shoulder loops, and smaller and flatter lettering roundel. Details not so sharp as my find....)
                            Thats why I dared to pick this one up in a junk shop. It also has correct attachment system details compared with those on the fakes...
                            So the Austrian fakers have 2 different dies and s.o. put original backing system on this buckle?
                            Just learning here...

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                              #15
                              Hello K.,

                              here's the mentioned austrian repro by its original configuration.

                              Ric
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