2 SS Officer OLC buckles- Original?

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Here are 2 SS Officer OLC zink belt buckles. Both seem ok to me as far as details and crimping are concered. However, I have read here that there are EXTREMELY good fakes of these in circulation. So what do you think of these two?
The makers stamp in one is a little lighter than the other, but that is the only difference I can find.

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[regiment739]

I would day both are original but wait for confirmation of others, my knowledge is limited on Officer buckles

[Ric Ferrari]

Here are 2 SS Officer OLC zink belt buckles. Both seem ok to me as far as details and crimping are concered. However, I have read here that there are EXTREMELY good fakes of these in circulation. So what do you think of these two?
The makers stamp in one is a little lighter than the other, but that is the only difference I can find.

Hello,

I like what see and by the pics I would say both are original

Best

Ric

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

Both original and from the same serie!

[militaria.no]

Something nice to go with them

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Waffe...s/S003861.html

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

Something nice to go with them

http://www.germanmilitaria.com/Waffe...s/S003861.html

Unfortunately not. Brocades were forbidden for wear by the SS and Police in 1941 until the end of the war. Those two above zinc officer buckles were made in 1943 (earliest zinc were made in 1942) and so absolutely not intended to fit brocades! Sorry ...

[tgn]

Unfortunately not. Brocades were forbidden for wear by the SS and Police in 1941 until the end of the war. Those two above zinc officer buckles were made in 1943 (earliest zinc were made in 1942) and so absolutely not intended to fit brocades! Sorry ...

Is there any photo evidence of Waffen-SS officers wearing the green backed brocade belt? I thought that was pretty much just a Police officer brocade after they became part of the SS.

Tom

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

Is there any photo evidence of Waffen-SS officers wearing the green backed brocade belt? I thought that was pretty much just a Police officer brocade after they became part of the SS.

Tom

Backing color makes the difference between W-SS and Police. The tint of green used for belt backing should match the tint of green of the uniform.
In reality most officers did not care about this. As long it was green, it was used/sold for both Police and W-SS. But for a purist, a W-SS tint should sell higher since not intended for Police to begin with.
Yes, there is photographic evidence. But there is also photographic evidence of black backed SS brocades (strictly for the black uniform) been worn with a green uniform ...

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Thanks to everyone for their help