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    Kriegsmarine Buckle help

    Has anyone seen markings like this before? I didn't think they waffenamt the buckle. Is this a fake? thanks all.
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    #2
    This is the Weimer time pre-war Kriegsmarine stamping, and you can find it in some pievces until 1936-7. Nice one and reare to find in a buckle .
    Collector of Kriegsmarine and Küstenartillerie items

    Regards
    Eduardo


    Collecting Kriegsmarine !!!: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=725610

    sigpic "Deutsche Kriegsmarine"

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      #3
      Sah-weet! Any chance at getting a pic of the front?
      Cheers!

      Rob

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        #4
        Maybe

        If I buy it. I will. Thanks for your help.

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          #5
          Craig..I don't like it. I have looked at hundreds of KM Crown and Eagle M markings, mostly on Lugers, other types of small auto pistols and leather and the Crown or Eagle is most always right on top of the M . This one is so far away from the M I believe it's a phony. On top of this I have looked at my share of these KM buckles and this is the first I have ever seen with an Eagle M marking on one of these. My gut says it isn't right.
          Jerry Burney

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            #6
            Thanks

            Thanks for the update. I think it best to invest elsewhere too.

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              #7
              Looks good to me, distance looks like this one.
              http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...t=weimar+eagle

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                #8
                Hi all,

                Why should there be an acceptance stamp on a buckle that was strictly non-issue, but only worn by officers who had to buy their uniform?

                Regards,
                Karl

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                  #9
                  Karl makes an excellent point! Rick, an excellent photo and a good reference...This eagle is off the top of the M but the buckle Eagle looks just too high off to me. Like I said..it's a gut feeling for me as I know next to nothing about these little Navy buckles.
                  I collect box buckles. Jerry Burney

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Karl Ortmann View Post
                    Hi all,

                    Why should there be an acceptance stamp on a buckle that was strictly non-issue, but only worn by officers who had to buy their uniform?

                    Regards,
                    Karl
                    This one was also used by NCO, that in the Kriegsmarine didn't have to by their own uniform. IMO is a nice one.
                    Collector of Kriegsmarine and Küstenartillerie items

                    Regards
                    Eduardo


                    Collecting Kriegsmarine !!!: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=725610

                    sigpic "Deutsche Kriegsmarine"

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                      #11
                      Buenos Dias Eduardo! I actually will be receiving this buckle in the mail sometime next week hopefully! I was able to acquire it for a great price on Ebay. I will post some more pics when it comes in. I also think that it is a good one...hence my bid.

                      Cheers!

                      Rob

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                        #12
                        You're right, senior NCOs (Portepee-Unteroffiziere) were allowed the dagger and, consequently, the narrow blue belt with oval gold buckle. Neither the dagger, nor the belt and buckle, were issue items, however.

                        Best regards,
                        Karl

                        Originally posted by km-spain View Post
                        This one was also used by NCO, that in the Kriegsmarine didn't have to by their own uniform. IMO is a nice one.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Karl Ortmann View Post
                          You're right, senior NCOs (Portepee-Unteroffiziere) were allowed the dagger and, consequently, the narrow blue belt with oval gold buckle. Neither the dagger, nor the belt and buckle, were issue items, however.

                          Best regards,
                          Karl
                          Karl, you can find swords and dagger that were on the naval places as issue items, because not all officers and NCO had their own one to used, so why not the belt and the buckle. No one of us be surprized when we see a sword marked like mine.

                          Collector of Kriegsmarine and Küstenartillerie items

                          Regards
                          Eduardo


                          Collecting Kriegsmarine !!!: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=725610

                          sigpic "Deutsche Kriegsmarine"

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                            #14
                            Hi Eduardo,

                            Yes, I would like to retract what I said earlier about issue pieces. The sword you show is very compelling evidence, and I have now been told by Musketeer that that there are daggers with Weimar acceptance stamps, and swords with Imperial stamps as well. So, if swords and daggers were issued, it stands to reason that sword belts with their buckles were issued as well. In 25 years of collecting buckles, I've never seen such a buckle with an acceptance stamp before this one. Of course that's just my experience, perhaps some others can chime in?

                            Best regards,
                            Karl

                            Originally posted by km-spain View Post
                            Karl, you can find swords and dagger that were on the naval places as issue items, because not all officers and NCO had their own one to used, so why not the belt and the buckle. No one of us be surprized when we see a sword marked like mine.

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                              #15
                              Hey guys....The brocade arrived today....I've got some extra pics to show. I like the look of it...and it feels good in hand. Not alum., it's much too heavy for that.

                              Here are some pics....



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