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**km-spain** · 10-19-2007, 10:07 AM

This is the Weimer time pre-war Kriegsmarine stamping, and you can find it in some pievces until 1936-7. Nice one and reare to find in a buckle

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**lach470** · 10-19-2007, 02:29 PM

Sah-weet! Any chance at getting a pic of the front?
Cheers!

Rob

**Craig** · 10-19-2007, 10:59 PM

Maybe

If I buy it. I will. Thanks for your help.

**Jerry Burney** · 10-19-2007, 11:19 PM

Craig..I don't like it. I have looked at hundreds of KM Crown and Eagle M markings, mostly on Lugers, other types of small auto pistols and leather and the Crown or Eagle is most always right on top of the M . This one is so far away from the M I believe it's a phony. On top of this I have looked at my share of these KM buckles and this is the first I have ever seen with an Eagle M marking on one of these. My gut says it isn't right.
Jerry Burney

**Craig** · 10-20-2007, 08:22 AM

Thanks

Thanks for the update. I think it best to invest elsewhere too.

**rick1** · 10-20-2007, 08:44 AM

Looks good to me, distance looks like this one.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...t=weimar+eagle

**Kurt Doench** · 10-20-2007, 11:21 AM

Hi all,

Why should there be an acceptance stamp on a buckle that was strictly non-issue, but only worn by officers who had to buy their uniform?

Regards,
Karl

**Jerry Burney** · 10-20-2007, 11:54 AM

Karl makes an excellent point! Rick, an excellent photo and a good reference...This eagle is off the top of the M but the buckle Eagle looks just too high off to me. Like I said..it's a gut feeling for me as I know next to nothing about these little Navy buckles.
I collect box buckles. Jerry Burney

**km-spain** · 10-25-2007, 05:34 AM

Originally posted by Karl Ortmann View Post

Hi all,

Why should there be an acceptance stamp on a buckle that was strictly non-issue, but only worn by officers who had to buy their uniform?

Regards,
Karl

This one was also used by NCO, that in the Kriegsmarine didn't have to by their own uniform. IMO is a nice one.

**lach470** · 10-25-2007, 07:22 AM

Buenos Dias Eduardo! I actually will be receiving this buckle in the mail sometime next week hopefully! I was able to acquire it for a great price on Ebay. I will post some more pics when it comes in. I also think that it is a good one...hence my bid.

Cheers!

Rob

**Kurt Doench** · 10-25-2007, 11:02 AM

You're right, senior NCOs (Portepee-Unteroffiziere) were allowed the dagger and, consequently, the narrow blue belt with oval gold buckle. Neither the dagger, nor the belt and buckle, were issue items, however.

Best regards,
Karl

Originally posted by km-spain View Post

This one was also used by NCO, that in the Kriegsmarine didn't have to by their own uniform. IMO is a nice one.

**km-spain** · 10-26-2007, 02:45 AM

Originally posted by Karl Ortmann View Post

You're right, senior NCOs (Portepee-Unteroffiziere) were allowed the dagger and, consequently, the narrow blue belt with oval gold buckle. Neither the dagger, nor the belt and buckle, were issue items, however.

Best regards,
Karl

Karl, you can find swords and dagger that were on the naval places as issue items, because not all officers and NCO had their own one to used, so why not the belt and the buckle. No one of us be surprized when we see a sword marked like mine.

**Kurt Doench** · 10-26-2007, 03:31 PM

Hi Eduardo,

Yes, I would like to retract what I said earlier about issue pieces. The sword you show is very compelling evidence, and I have now been told by Musketeer that that there are daggers with Weimar acceptance stamps, and swords with Imperial stamps as well. So, if swords and daggers were issued, it stands to reason that sword belts with their buckles were issued as well. In 25 years of collecting buckles, I've never seen such a buckle with an acceptance stamp before this one. Of course that's just my experience, perhaps some others can chime in?

Best regards,
Karl

Originally posted by km-spain View Post

Karl, you can find swords and dagger that were on the naval places as issue items, because not all officers and NCO had their own one to used, so why not the belt and the buckle. No one of us be surprized when we see a sword marked like mine.

**lach470** · 11-02-2007, 05:43 PM

Hey guys....The brocade arrived today....I've got some extra pics to show. I like the look of it...and it feels good in hand. Not alum., it's much too heavy for that.

Here are some pics....

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