SS buckle, real or fake?

[bresà]

What do you think of this?

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[Blaz]

...one learns everyday

[schorschi]

For me it is 99 % a fake.
The ears do not look ok.
And the rust ???

[Jean Pierre Redeuilh]

It IS a fake. The same old friend from East Europe we are seeing over and over. At least, it is the first time I was not able to tell right away (meaning within five seconds) looking at the first photo (front view). The artificial aging process did really a good job on this one to hide many details. But seeing the back does not leave any doubt.

[bnz. 42]

It IS a fake. The same old friend from East Europe we are seeing over and over. At least, it is the first time I was not able to tell right away (meaning within five seconds) looking at the first photo (front view). The artificial aging process did really a good job on this one to hide many details. But seeing the back does not leave any doubt.

Thanks Jean, for your continuous help. I am proud 'to be around' experts like you here.

[Sergey]

For me it is 1000% fake!

[Blaz]

Hi Guys,

Does anyone know who and where the buckle is or was made?
Does anyone have any other picture of exactly the same buckle?

Thanx ,
Blazej

[Sergey]

Hi Guys,

Does anyone know who and where the buckle is or was made?
Does anyone have any other picture of exactly the same buckle?

Thanx ,
Blazej

Blazej, I believe this one is upgrated variation of wellknown czech fake with various markings (rodo, 155/40, A&S). With more correct prongs and gates.

[Blaz]

Sergey, maybe it's cuased by how the pictures were taken but this variation is not the same as the common fakes from East Europe in my oppinion. Also I don't think that it's upgrading variation of those, because "Czech Market" I know quite well and never seen one like that before. I think that the buckle comes from diffrent die. The eagle is more fat with very small head, completely diffrent than in Czech fakes, also the chest looks diffrent from it's front side. That's why I asked if anyone had picture of exactly the same buckle. It's hard to judge from those pictures, I asked Mr. Bresa about some other shots of the buckle but no reply from his side. I can be wrong but I think that this forum is a right place to discuss such things. I am not saying that the buckle is good or bad, just want to find out something more about the variation.
Greeetings,
Blazej

[Sergey]

Sergey, maybe it's cuased by how the pictures were taken but this variation is not the same as the common fakes from East Europe in my oppinion. Also I don't think that it's upgrading variation of those, because "Czech Market" I know quite well and never seen one like that before. I think that the buckle comes from diffrent die. The eagle is more fat with very small head, completely diffrent than in Czech fakes, also the chest looks diffrent from it's front side. That's why I asked if anyone had picture of exactly the same buckle. It's hard to judge from those pictures, I asked Mr. Bresa about some other shots of the buckle but no reply from his side. I can be wrong but I think that this forum is a right place to discuss such things. I am not saying that the buckle is good or bad, just want to find out something more about the variation.
Greeetings,
Blazej

Hello Blazej, you are right the photos not the best and artificial aging some fooling too, but even by these photos persanally I see it is a very close to 155/40 fake. I am agree it has some differences in disign ( not so serious), because it is a new fake, but their main details still easy identify it as a fake. And I am sure it comes from the same source as 155/40 fakes.

[Sergey]

Hello Blazej, you are right the photos not the best and artificial aging some fooling too, but even by these photos persanally I see it is a very close to 155/40 fake. I am agree it has some differences in disign ( not so serious), because it is a new fake, but their main details still easy identify it as a fake. And I am sure it comes from the same source as 155/40 fakes.
Look at this

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...55%2F40+buckle