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    SS rotating swastika at Manions....

    Congratulation to whomever I was bidding against!

    Happy I already own one of these… Was sold for 3054 $!!!!! Plus cost!!!!!

    http://www.manions.com/bid/bid.aspx?...725777&pic=267

    Manions describe it as one out of two known; this is not true, as I know at least four of them including mine. They are all slightly different. (Catch position, prong assembly, ect...)

    Marc
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    Marc

    Without appearing irreverent toward the Answer to Life, the Universe and Everything being 42

    Why do you feel the need to have 2 of these most rare SS buckles ?

    Regards,

    David

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      #3
      David...I know the answer to this question ..it is universal!!! " IF ONE IS GOOD , TWO IS BETTER" ... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA CHAD

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        #4
        For display purpose.. it looks beter if you see the front and the back at ones in the same case....

        Marc

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          #5
          Originally posted by Marc verstraete
          For display purpose.. it looks beter if you see the front and the back at ones in the same case....

          Marc
          Congrats Marc, fantastic addition !

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            Hi Chris, You misunderstood; I did NOT buy the buckle. As I already have on in my collection, I did not go crazy on this one. I stopped when the price became ridiculous! Someone else paid the 3000+ dollars. It do increase the value of mine, that is for sure…<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o></o>

            Marc

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              #7
              Originally posted by Marc verstraete
              Manions describe it as one out of two known; this is not true, as I know at least four of them including mine. They are all slightly different. (Catch position, prong assembly, ect...)
              Marc
              I can also add few others known on the top of those 4 you mentionned. In the ones I know, even if I agree they all bear very minor differences, only one is totally different than the displayed example: Your (of course if you are reffering as "your" the one you sent me photos in the past). Just suffice to notice "your" does not have any rope behind the eagle's head. It's eagle design is also totally different from the above example. Similar, yes, but not at all the same.

              In consequence IMHO the value of "your" remains unchanged since, so far, you are the only collector I know to have the one you have. Up to you to request the price you wish. There is no competition.

              Note: For who asked me by private messages, I am not neither the highest bidder (I did not even bid on it since I am no longer browsing or buying anything from the source). Furthermore I would not have wait $3000 to leave my screen alone for this one ...

              Best to All
              Jean Pierre Redeuilh
              All my collection of SS Buckles is for sale. Contact jpredeu@rogers.com for inquiries

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                #8
                Hi all,

                Can someone please explain what these SS buckles
                with the rotated swastika are?

                Were they the first SS buckle design and then they changed the design to the standard swastika later, (like a prototype), or were they made and used at
                the same time with the regular type buckles, and if so, what was their purpose?

                Thank you very much!
                Chris

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                  #9
                  I almost forgot, Who all made these rotated swaz buckles, only Overhoff?

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by SScollector
                    I almost forgot, Who all made these rotated swaz buckles, only Overhoff?
                    Hi Chris,

                    What or who made you believe Overhoff is the maker of any of those ?
                    Jean Pierre Redeuilh
                    All my collection of SS Buckles is for sale. Contact jpredeu@rogers.com for inquiries

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                      I rather like and indeed, being most attracted by the theory put forward by Thomas Reid, that this quite unusual and early SS buckle was actually an attempt by an unknown (to myself at least) manufacturer, to thwart the stranglehold of Overhoff u. Cie.

                      Marc - may we have the benefit of images in relation to the "mobile" swastika SS buckle that you hold.

                      Regards,

                      David

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                        #12
                        Why are these buckles so rare? ...Is it because they were early trial patterns, or just that they had a limited production run and were not approved because of the angle of the swaz and, I speculate, then the same company continued to make SS ems but with the correct angle, J

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                          #13
                          I have no specific reason to believe that this buckle was made by Overhoff.
                          I was just wondering, because the beak resembles Overhoff's beak
                          from what little I can see, but of course the pictures are very small.
                          Anyway, I was just curious.

                          Thanks! Chris

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                            #14
                            By the way, has anyone ever seen an SS EM, (or officer's)
                            buckle that is marked only with "GES.GESCH." and an RZM?
                            I can't say for sure, but I want to say that I think I saw
                            a nickel SS EM buckle that was marked like this a few years ago.

                            Thanks! Chris

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                              Originally posted by SScollector
                              By the way, has anyone ever seen an SS EM, (or officer's)
                              buckle that is marked only with "GES.GESCH." and an RZM?
                              I can't say for sure, but I want to say that I think I saw
                              a nickel SS EM buckle that was marked like this a few years ago.

                              Thanks! Chris
                              Yes, I aledy answerd this question in another tread a few months ago. I own a nikel EM SS buckle marked Ges Gesch and RZM.
                              Marc

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