Development of Panzer throat mikes

[Nick Komiya]

Here's another rare sight for a Panzer collector, a dfhd dated 1943. This was the headset issued to the commander and driver in the early Panzers before the advent of the Panzerkasten 20. By 1943 even the earlier production panzers were retrofitted with the Kasten 20, so these dfhd sets were completely phased out of Panzer use and only a trickle of them survived, having found use in the Panzerspähwagen of the Ordnungpolizei. The 43 date will point to Police use.

[Nick Komiya]

Only 54 (27x2 solenoids)Ohms, not 2000 Ohms like the dfhb

[csmagdo]

dnz is SABA, indeed. DTW and ErPeEs (RPS, Robert Pfäffle) was involved besides in producrion.
Zwillingswerke made the magnets for the Kopfhörern (for Dfh.a and f as well), as well as Delta.

[Satcong101]

I love this thread I've learned so much from it, thank you

[Nick Komiya]

Thank you for your kind words. It is good to know that it broke some fresh ground.

[csmagdo]

Ok, I collected more info on the makers, logos and their Wehrmacht Codebuchsteiben.

I know three makers for Panzer headphones:
• SABA (Schwarzwälder Apparaten-Bau-Anstalt, Villingen), dnz
Also premier maker of the UKW Panzer sets.



• ErPeEs (Robert Pfäffle, Schwennigen), elh



• DTW (Deutsche Telefonwerke, Berlin), bxo



As for the magnets in the headset:
• Böhler&Co (Wien, Berlin, Düsseldorf), cbr



• Deltawerk Hugo Linder (Solingen).


(Usually one Delta mark is on the magnet as a logo, I'll try to find a picture later.)

• Ludwig Braun Magnet- und Metalwaren-Fabrik (Frankfurt a/Main)



• Zwilling J. A. Henckels, (Solingen, since 1731!!! Later: Henckels Zwillingswerke), edg



Yes, it's the same company you have some metalware in the kitchen

There's another marking on the magnet, the "N" (Nord), representing the North pole of it.
I hope you all can now identify your Panzer headset parts/makers!

Take care Volks, Csaba

[Nick Komiya]

Csaba,

Thanks for the manufacturer's information.

[csmagdo]

Welcome!
I just dropped by from the comm. equipment forum and thought we may "collaborate".
Next time I will make photos of physical specimens and upload them here to show how these logos look like in fact and where they are.
Csaba

[panzerrune]

A most informative thread! I learned a lot here!

After reading this, I got nervous and went to check my headset and throatmic config and they are CORRECT for my late war SS panzer commander display.

T A N K S !

[militeignoto]

Kmf.b throat microphone

Superb thread!!!
I recently acquired a Kmf.b throat microphone and I am wondering which headset would be be most appropriate for a WH display...

[Dufleuve]

Hello,
You need a Dfh.b for a panzer display.

Cheers

[Funksammler]

...or a Dfh.a for a Torn.Fu. (infantry, artillery etc.) display...

regards,

Funksammler

[militeignoto]

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