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    #16
    Originally posted by RTY View Post
    It is not very seldom when parts from different tanks are digging up in one place...
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    Yes, but in this in case is otherwise.

    Originally posted by RTY View Post
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    But this is a gas pedal from Panther...
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    I don't think so.

    Originally posted by RTY View Post
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    KwK42 has a muzzle brake. The gun at the picture is StuK42.
    Gun from Jagdpanzer IV L70.

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      #17
      Do you have photo of Pz.IV' pedals?

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        #18
        Originally posted by RTY View Post
        Do you have photo of Pz.IV' pedals?
        Yes I have, and most importantly I have a picture of pedals from Panther tank.

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          #19
          Wonderful.

          Please show them here.

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            #20
            Hi

            Here from Panzer IV:





            And Panther:

            http://www.panther1944.de/community/...php?f=3&t=1721

            Pozdrawiam
            Paul.

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              #21
              You may think what you want to think.
              I'm still thinking that this is a Panther part .

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                #22
                Hmm

                My:



                Panther:



                Different texture, different tank.

                Pozdrawiam
                Paul.

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                  #23
                  Have you compared a texture and direction to Pz.IV' part?

                  Texture is the same (rhomb), the different is a direction.
                  Panther was assembled on several plants, and the direction could be different at the different plants.

                  For example, another restored Panther :

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                    #24
                    Panther peddels

                    Maybe this picture will help



                    Original panther peddels....



                    Some more Panther peddels
                    Last edited by sdkfz181; 01-18-2009, 08:00 AM.

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                      #25
                      Hi all


                      Originally posted by RTY View Post
                      Have you compared a texture and direction to Pz.IV' part?
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                      Yes I have.
                      It's very similar, but in photo of yours pedals from Panther is similar too.



                      Originally posted by RTY View Post
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                      Panther was assembled on several plants, and the direction could be different at the different plants.
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                      Yep, you are right. It's very probably that pedals were different:



                      Originally posted by RTY View Post
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                      For example, another restored Panther :
                      Is this Littlefield Panther??

                      Pozdrawiam.
                      Paul.


                      Ps
                      Thanks Sdkfz181 for photos.

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                        #26
                        Hi

                        Maybe this pedal:





                        is this pedal:









                        MG fussabfeuerung, MG remote foot trigger.

                        I need photos this part from oryginal Panther. Maybe someone have?

                        Pozdrawiam.
                        Paul.

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                          #27
                          Hi all.

                          New finds come in soon:







                          Pozdrawiam.
                          Paul.

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                            #28
                            new parts found

                            Hi Paul

                            So you found more of those Panther wheel washers
                            The parts on the other pics ressemble like shellfragments?
                            hard to determine what it is at this stage.

                            Btw the pole of the "cross" definitely is a barrel from a jagdpanzer IV L70
                            the front end is a prominent feature.
                            ciao
                            Bullitt

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                              #29
                              Hi


                              Originally posted by Bullitt View Post
                              Hi Paul

                              So you found more of those Panther wheel washers
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                              Yep, I went in place where I found first two and I found the ones


                              Originally posted by Bullitt View Post
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                              The parts on the other pics ressemble like shellfragments?
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                              Yes you are right.
                              I think that the tank was destroyed with the HEAT round.

                              Originally posted by Bullitt View Post
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                              hard to determine what it is at this stage.
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                              You must wait a moment. I cannot search and clean things at the same time


                              First photo is things found in front of vehicle (except lock washers),
                              second and third photo is things found in turret section - gunner and commander side.

                              Bakelite found today:














                              Originally posted by Bullitt View Post
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                              Btw the pole of the "cross" definitely is a barrel from a jagdpanzer IV L70
                              the front end is a prominent feature.
                              ciao
                              Bullitt
                              Like I say

                              In my area are crosses from kwk40, flak 36(??), T-34 85, Panther drive sprocket

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                                #30
                                Hi Paul,

                                A lot of small parts hard to determine I guess
                                the bakelit parts can be from episcopes etc.

                                Since you found so many small parts, maybe the panzer was blown up using it own ammo that was still inside?

                                Try to widen your search area next time (in a circle of 25 m), maybe you'll find parts there too and thus proofs a theory of a massive explosion.

                                if you don't find anything in that wider search area, then the vehicle was simply scrapped on the spot.

                                yesterday I received some parts too....have a guess
                                [IMG][/IMG]

                                ciao
                                Bullitt

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