Great thread guys! i hope to visit alot of these places one day.
I totally agree a film about these German Heroes would be great!
I totally agree a film about these German Heroes would be great!
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Originally posted by Bcarver View PostI don't believe there are any "good" war movies out there from the German perspective. Stalingrad was poor and was just an attempt by the Germans to beat themselves up to show the world they are very sorry for what the world says they did. I fanyone knows of others I'd like to know. Das Boot is good, but, I would like to see a movie about Prien or Kretchmer from a pure honest view that only focuses on the events and not the political groveling. How about a movie about Wittman- "Lion of Normandy", showing him as a warrior poet (I've read his letters to his wife) and his struggle against overwhelming odds.
where did you get these letters? (I have always suspected a remarkable love story)
Would mine a read myself........Comment
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Gran Sasso, has anyone published a decent memoir of Barkmann's? Something that he had a hand in. I would love to read his thoughts, particularly on his post war experiences, but these memoirs tend to be more miss than hit and I'm loathe to throw my money away on books that serve to perpetuate antiquated attitudes.
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Anybody able to post some GPS coordinates to Barkmanns corner to make it really easy to find ? Nobody uses maps today.
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I just spent the last hour trying to figure it out using goggle maps, and i have to admit defeat, but it was great looking around that particular part of France...Comment
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No complete book was published, but you can find some of his battle-stories in the book of Will Fey (tolb by Barkmann to him), and in the Ardennes-issue of the After-the-battle publications.Originally posted by Herr Lyppe View PostComment
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Sorry but I had to reply to this even though its ‘off topic’.Originally posted by John Huff View Post
Have we not all moved on and learnt that not all Germans where Nazi’s and not to tar all peoples with the same political brush of the governing power in their country, both past and present? It seems a very ignorant and out dated attitude to me.
Talk to any Vietnam/Iraq/Afgan vet and ask him if he fully agreed and supports the politics that put him there, ask him if he fought for those politics or if he fought for his own life and his friends.
In the same way not all post WW2 vets are Republican or Democrat, (or in the Uk conservative or labour) not all Germans where Nazi’s.
Let’s not forget that in war the winners get to write the history. Atrocities where carried out on all side both during and after the fighting. Yes the Nazi regime was despicable and their ideology was far beyond any acceptance by a reasonable rational person but have we not just in resent history fought to free others from such oppressive regimes? Which must mean we understand that a countries population for the most part stand separate from a countries governing power?
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Talk to American tank crews who were there, and they'll refer to Barkmann as a real bastard, but there will be unbridled admiration in their voices....Originally posted by John Huff View Post
Well put, Babyteeth.....I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.....Comment
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you should see on the first page of this postOriginally posted by WWIIBuff View Post
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He may have not been a party member (or maybe he was) but I bet he took this oath:
"I swear by almighty God this sacred oath:
I will render unconditional obedience
to the Fuehrer of the German Reich and people, Adolf Hitler,
Supreme Commander of the Wehrmacht,
and, as a brave soldier,
I will be ready at any time
to stake my life for this oath."
At least he survived to be "mistreated". My uncle was gunned down in an open field by a group of "heroes"Comment
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Its war-people die. Caught in the open - why? poor combat tactics, incompetant command or just bad luck....I am sure many died on all sides for all those reasons,whether they be 'heroes' or not.Originally posted by John Huff View PostComment
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"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."
Sounds remarkably similar.....
We ALL took that oath, and we all had the mindset that we were doing what was right. Circumstances beyond the average grunts' control, often dictate otherwise.I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous.....Comment
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