Red Sniper Taking out a Tank

[BrentNunns]

"Tank Recognition" booklet

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[me6_130]

It is true that a Mosin Nagant is not an anti-tank rifle but the fact is that AP 7,62x54R bullets existed, mostly for MGs. I don't know what could happen if you shoot it in a rifle but it is possible.

http://old.municion.org/762x54r/762x54r.htm

Carles

[Schütze0815]

Thanks for all the good information !
Best
Sascha

My Tank Diary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FwAX8nwg3o&t=61s

[dragnet]

Not exactly how to destroy a tank but thought it might be worthy of adding to this thread

[Karol98k]

Some second-hand info to be found here:

http://mosinnagant.net/sniper%20section/snipertext1.asp

Snipers were expected of shooting at tank visors with AP rounds by official regulations - not sure if widely practised at the front as it couldn't be too effective

[Stive]

I read a lot of memoirs of Russian snipers, but nowhere was there a fact of getting into the tank driver through the tank 's observation window. It is IMO fiction
Here are some instructions on the vulnerable locations of German tanks. Everywhere it is recommended to shoot from all types of small arms on observation windows, which would damage armoured glass and make it impossible to conduct observation.

[Marcel Banziger]

Taken from the memoir of Alexander Vasilevich Pylcin ("Penalty strike"). It tells exatly what this thread is about:

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[saar]

Taken from the memoir of Alexander Vasilevich Pylcin ("Penalty strike").

I read this book. It's a fantasy book.
The book is written by an 80+ years old guy 60 years after the war. On the page you showed he is talking about a Panther tank being knocked out with an AT rifle. Really?
The next page is even more interesting, the Russians repelled the attack of Panther and Tiger tanks with AT guns and machine guns(!) fire, knocked out another tank and even captured the tank crew. Tiger tanks attacking infantry which stopped them with machine guns? Please.

[jacquesf]

I read this book. It's a fantasy book.
The book is written by an 80+ years old guy 60 years after the war. On the page you showed he is talking about a Panther tank being knocked out with an AT rifle. Really?
The next page is even more interesting, the Russians repelled the attack of Panther and Tiger tanks with AT guns and machine guns(!) fire, knocked out another tank and even captured the tank crew. Tiger tanks attacking infantry which stopped them with machine guns? Please.

They still kick the Germans ass's. No fantasy there.J

[Marcel Banziger]

I read this book. It's a fantasy book.
The book is written by an 80+ years old guy 60 years after the war. On the page you showed he is talking about a Panther tank being knocked out with an AT rifle. Really?
The next page is even more interesting, the Russians repelled the attack of Panther and Tiger tanks with AT guns and machine guns(!) fire, knocked out another tank and even captured the tank crew. Tiger tanks attacking infantry which stopped them with machine guns? Please.

Even though his story was published many years after the war, and most likely elements have been changed over the course of years since it all happened so long ago (and memories are not too fresh anymore) still many things are still close to reality and this memoir can not be put into the fiction catagory. That is simply too ignorant. Otherwise none of the memoirs out there should be taken serious and all would fall into the fiction genre. Is that what you think?? After all, the majority has been written half a century after the war's end.

Tanks have been knocked out by AT guns. If not completely than at least partially where molotov cocktails or other measures finished the job.
Apart from that, if you would read more into Soviet memoirs you would know that many tanks were called Tiger, Panther or Elephant. Simply because many were not up to date with the exact names and types of all tanks out there. Tiger, Elephant and Panther were the common names used by Soviet troops.

[Karol98k]

Thats true, here after the war all German tanks became Tigers or at least Panthers in people's minds. Apart from that, the PTRD AT rifle had a maximum piercing capability close to the thickness of the side armor of the Panther, at least in theory...

[saar]

Even though his story was published many years after the war, and most likely elements have been changed over the course of years since it all happened so long ago (and memories are not too fresh anymore) still many things are still close to reality and this memoir can not be put into the fiction catagory. That is simply too ignorant. Otherwise none of the memoirs out there should be taken serious and all would fall into the fiction genre. Is that what you think?? After all, the majority has been written half a century after the war's end.

Tanks have been knocked out by AT guns. If not completely than at least partially where molotov cocktails or other measures finished the job.
Apart from that, if you would read more into Soviet memoirs you would know that many tanks were called Tiger, Panther or Elephant. Simply because many were not up to date with the exact names and types of all tanks out there. Tiger, Elephant and Panther were the common names used by Soviet troops.

Too many assumptions. You can support any theory with such an approach.

[Marcel Banziger]

Too many assumptions. You can support any theory with such an approach.

Not too many assumptions. In fact no assumptions at all. I would suggest to dive into more Soviet and German memoirs, battle reports, divisional history reports etc. and then make an opinion. Just stating: "No! Impossible! It's fantasy!" is a quite narrowminded approach. Not saying that every memoir should be taken word by word as the 100% accurate truth. However, stating it is nonsense and fantasy is much, much further from the truth.

[saar]

Not too many assumptions. In fact no assumptions at all. I would suggest to dive into more Soviet and German memoirs, battle reports, divisional history reports etc. and then make an opinion. Just stating: "No! Impossible! It's fantasy!" is a quite narrowminded approach. Not saying that every memoir should be taken word by word as the 100% accurate truth. However, stating it is nonsense and fantasy is much, much further from the truth.

Whatever

[Marcel Banziger]

Whatever