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    #16
    Well now your asking things even i can´t answer.

    That box is lovely but it doesn´t belong to the badge posted by you and the box doesn´t make the badge more L/53 anyway since it´s a L/52 WB and in a stunning condition on top of that. That mutch i do know.
    Regards
    Hans N

    Don´t throw away your fake WB´s! Get in touch with me.
    I collect them for reference purposes for the benefit of the hobby (for the right "fake" price of course).

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      #17
      So 2 L/52 put in L/53 boxes ? Any evidence that it´s L/52 and not a sloppy L/53 ?

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        #18
        Originally posted by Alex K. View Post
        So 2 L/52 put in L/53 boxes ? Any evidence that it´s L/52 and not a sloppy L/53 ?
        Yes, two L/52´s in L/53 boxes. Someone married the 2 WB´s with the 2 Boxes to make more money or cricumstances made it happen. But they are still not belonging together!

        And as for evidence well you your self provided these pics all i did was to invert the colors and in that way enhanced the mm´s
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        Regards
        Hans N

        Don´t throw away your fake WB´s! Get in touch with me.
        I collect them for reference purposes for the benefit of the hobby (for the right "fake" price of course).

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          #19
          These badges will not become L/53´s how mutch you try. Here´s the other pic you provided also just color inverted.
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          Regards
          Hans N

          Don´t throw away your fake WB´s! Get in touch with me.
          I collect them for reference purposes for the benefit of the hobby (for the right "fake" price of course).

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            #20
            This damn scan I wish i never made it
            Is there, except the scan with a "look-like" maker mark, more evidence ? How does a L/53 Tombak WB look like ?

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              #21
              Here is the maker mark of Winkler´s WB. Is that a L/53 oder L/52 mark ?
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                #22
                I made a new scan of the maker mark of my badge. You can see a 3 (green) and no 2 because there is no line (marked red), there is just a little dimple in the middle of the 3 which go down and make the 3 look like a 2 from different angles.
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                  #23
                  The Winkler looks like a L/53 from that crappy pic.
                  The scan made by you are a L/52 IMO.

                  Here´s a L/53 in tombak
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                  Regards
                  Hans N

                  Don´t throw away your fake WB´s! Get in touch with me.
                  I collect them for reference purposes for the benefit of the hobby (for the right "fake" price of course).

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                    #24
                    And here´s the zink WB made by Hymmen.
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                    Regards
                    Hans N

                    Don´t throw away your fake WB´s! Get in touch with me.
                    I collect them for reference purposes for the benefit of the hobby (for the right "fake" price of course).

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                      #25
                      So the Winkler WB looks like a L/53, right ? Which would be correct for the case. And it shares the same characteristics as my "look like" L/52. So if we assume that my badge is a L/53, like Winklers, one, which came in also in a L/53 case, it would match to the case. I think it is sure possible that the sloppy maker mark can be a L/53 mark and can look like L/52 in some angles.

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                        #26
                        Yes it looks like a L/53 but it isn´t, the pic is so crappy it looks like one. Hymmen used the raised makermark on their zink badges with the exception to the BWB they made.

                        IMO there are many L/52 badges in tombak out there that´s mistaken as L/53´s.

                        As far as i am conserned Hymmen used the makermark on the buntmetal GWB that i posted on their bunt badges and not a raised makermark.
                        Regards
                        Hans N

                        Don´t throw away your fake WB´s! Get in touch with me.
                        I collect them for reference purposes for the benefit of the hobby (for the right "fake" price of course).

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                          #27
                          I accept your opinion, but i have an other one My theory, based on a sloppy maker marked (which looks under circumstances like L/52) and supported with 2 badges with matching cases (from different sources) sounds - in my opinion - better than "it´s a L/52".
                          The only -for me- acceptable L/52 Tombak WBs are the type posted here:

                          http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...52+Wound+Badge

                          Nevertheless thanks for the discussion

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                            #28
                            Hello,

                            I don't know much about WBs but all the Zimmermann medals I have seen that are marked L/52 never have a raised maker mark.

                            Here are three L/52 marked medals I have and all have non-raised maker marks.

                            I hope this helps the discussion.

                            Regards,
                            Stephen

                            First picture is a mm from a BWB.
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                              #29
                              mm from an EKI
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                                #30
                                mm from a KVKI
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