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**John Bart** · 03-13-2005, 06:06 AM

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**Don Scowen** · 03-13-2005, 06:20 AM

Originally posted by John Bart

Hi All,
Just wondered what your feelings are on this piece?
Thanks in advance,

This is the second one of these that I've seen recently (or perhaps the same one posted again?). The last one turned up on the "other" forum, the final decision was inconclusive as it doesn't match the accepted pattern on the reverse. It usually has the area name also in raised letters as well as the NSDAP.

Cheers
Don

**John Bart** · 03-13-2005, 06:38 AM

Originally posted by Don Scowen

This is the second one of these that I've seen recently (or perhaps the same one posted again?). The last one turned up on the "other" forum, the final decision was inconclusive as it doesn't match the accepted pattern on the reverse. It usually has the area name also in raised letters as well as the NSDAP.

Cheers
Don

Hi Don,
Thanks for your prompt response. I greatly appreciate it.
Could you please post or PM the link to the "other" forum you mention as I am unaware of ever having seen it.
Thanks!

**Don Scowen** · 03-13-2005, 06:47 AM

Originally posted by John Bart

Hi Don,
Thanks for your prompt response. I greatly appreciate it.
Could you please post or PM the link to the "other" forum you mention as I am unaware of ever having seen it.
Thanks!

I'll PM it to you as I'm not sure that we are allowed to link to other forums & would hate to fall foul of the rules here.

Cheers
Don

**John Bart** · 03-13-2005, 06:50 AM

Thank you, Don.
I did recall seeing one of these here recently on eStand.

**John Bart** · 03-13-2005, 07:56 AM

Cone's book shows this badge with the GES. GESCH. and the gau district in addition to the NSDAP.
He states "there are no existing records stating how many were produced."
He also noted that variants existed.

**burgerhaus** · 03-13-2005, 08:23 AM

Originally posted by John Bart

Cone's book shows this badge with the GES. GESCH. and the gau district in addition to the NSDAP.
He states "there are no existing records stating how many were produced."
He also noted that variants existed.

John and Don, Perhaps the reason for no gau district is that it is an un-issued example. I myself have one with only the NSDAP on it exactly like the one under discussion. It would seem logical no?? Just my opinion. Cheers Robert

**John Bart** · 03-13-2005, 08:29 AM

Originally posted by burgerhaus

John and Don, Perhaps the reason for no gau district is that it is an un-issued example. I myself have one with only the NSDAP on it exactly like the one under discussion. It would seem logical no?? Just my opinion. Cheers Robert

Hi Robert,
Thanks for your thoughts. You may be right.
Could you post pictures please?

**burgerhaus** · 03-13-2005, 10:16 AM

Originally posted by John Bart

Hi Robert,
Thanks for your thoughts. You may be right.
Could you post pictures please?

Here goes John, Quality of reverse isn'y good. I need to stop accumulating stuff for a month and invest in a new scanner. Robert

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**burgerhaus** · 03-13-2005, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by burgerhaus

Here goes John, Quality of reverse isn'y good. I need to stop accumulating stuff for a month and invest in a new scanner. Robert

Here is the reverse. Notice the red oxidation on it though.

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**Don Scowen** · 03-13-2005, 10:56 AM

Originally posted by burgerhaus

John and Don, Perhaps the reason for no gau district is that it is an un-issued example. I myself have one with only the NSDAP on it exactly like the one under discussion. It would seem logical no?? Just my opinion. Cheers Robert

I'm not sure I buy the "unissued" theory, mainly because the name had to be made into the die at the time of making. They would need to know at the time of making which Gau they were intended for.

However, it could be that there were some general badges made just in case other areas requested them later. To save making more at a later date....

Cheers
Don

**TerryG** · 03-13-2005, 11:15 AM

Here's the back of mine...

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**Mike Pinkus** · 03-13-2005, 01:41 PM

i agree the unissued theory does not make sense since the die is raised....
i dont have a problem with just the NSDAP logo...though of course the full name would be more desireable.....the biggie for me is the construction...i have see this verison in the past....
mike

**John Bart** · 03-13-2005, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by TerryG

Here's the back of mine...

Robert & TerryG,
Thanks for posting your badges.
Note the different shape to the pin mount on Terry's badge.

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