Would love to share this one with you, outstanding advert IMO.
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Excellent.
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Hello - an interesting piece but I am not convinced it is as it seems. First, I think the butterfly has been added (maybe because of the blurb on the back). The reason I think it has been added is because it is blocking a good portion of the word "...scheidig" above Graefenthal which strikes me as very odd. Then I have never seen a combination of cardboard and porcelain. In Tieste there is a very similar cardboard piece that says "Besucht Thueringen Das gruene Herz Deutschlands Kauft Thueringens Werterzeugnisse" (Tieste 00-08) - so the same except for the advertising part. So my opinion would be that it's a nice looking piece but not altogether original as made. Just my opinion mind you!
Attached is the butterfly used from the Mutter und Kind organization.
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Is the butterfly held on by the same goo that holds the pin?
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April 1936 is the release date for the butterfly series by the MuK. Does seem strange to have a part of the wording covered though.Comment
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The Tinnie is very rare and is not in the catalog . you sell it ?
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Thanks for the interest, no goo on the base of the butterfly, its manufacture and butterfly application is period and what i gather its to advertise the butterfly series, as im sure your aware its very nice to have the butterfly still attatched to the actual body, its survived in very nice condition. Pete.
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Curt, no cardboard in the manufacture, all porcelain.Originally posted by Curt Steinbach View Post
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Very interesting! The heart looked very much like cardboard from the photo. Still not convinced the butterfly was originally there. I did not say I thought it was not period, just not as originally made.
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Curt, no your correct, the heart is indeed paper, as for it being ''originally made'' i have no doubt being so, produced as is with the butterfly as intended in its design and im very happy with it, regards Pete.Originally posted by Curt Steinbach View Post
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I think Curt is right the butterfly is an add on, nice original tinny though
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Hi John, long time no see fella, cheers for the comment but i have to disagree with your assessment, the badge is produced to advertise the production of these ceramic butterfly badges, quote on the back of the badge, to produce the badge without the butterfly on the front, either as with this example, mounted butterfly or lets say a paper one or some sort of butterfly image would make no sence, IMHO. Just an extra note, the butterfly has a ''foot'' running along the bottom for mounting, plain ceramic butterlies sold in the series advertised are flat with a pin mounted flat on the back, the only other ive seen with the foot is an example of a WHW 30mm vase produced for some mothers event were the exact same type of butterly is mounted to the side. Well thats my assessment, i do like an interesting discussion on such items, makes collecting more fun, PeteOriginally posted by mametz View Post
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Hello:
Not sure what kind of "foot" you are referring to. From what I can see in your side shot it is nothing more than what is there for the series produced butterflies. I have attached a reverse shot of this specific butterfly and can show plenty more to illustrate the fact that they all had a "foot" to attach the pin. As to my original point, in my opinion it would not be much of an advertising piece if you hide the name of the maker. After some searching I found out it's Carl Scheidig and they went out of business in 1972 if my research is correct. Kind of got absorbed into a state manufacturer in the old DDR.
I'm just basing my comments on logic since I can't find anything at all online about this piece. Curious as to your comment "produced as is with the butterfly as intended in its design". Have you seen others? Do you have any documentation?
I would like to hear more from Guy on this.
CurtLast edited by Curt Steinbach; 07-31-2016, 01:27 PM.Comment
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