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    Rare Postal Police Tinnie Help Please!!!

    Ok. I think I found out what this tinnie is. Its from the Deutschen Auslandsbriefprufstelle (A.B.P) which if I understand it correctly, is the Postal Police? I assume this is a rare tinnie? If anyone can give any insight to this, it would be greatly appreciated.
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    tinnie

    Ok, after doing alittle more research I found out that the A.B.P was the administrative office of censorship for letters to foreign countries!!

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      #3
      That's interesting, good work on finding a probable solution for the mystery that when on in previous threads when this tin was posted before. Were you able to find anything more specific to the event / date yet?
      Interested in the Gendarmerie - Schutzpolizei - Gemeinden - Feuerschutzpolizei - Wasserschutzpolizei - Etc. Looking For Anything Polizei Related!

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        #4
        tinnie

        I was able to find that there was an office in Frankfurt where this event was held.

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          #5
          tinnie

          Originally posted by Chris Lee View Post
          Ok, after doing alittle more research I found out that the A.B.P was the administrative office of censorship for letters to foreign countries!!
          I assume this office worked closely with the Gestapo and other security services.
          Last edited by Chris Lee; 09-25-2015, 01:50 PM.

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            #6
            Chris, I have one of these too. could never figure out the meaning of A.B.P. I sometimes have wondered if it was truly police as the eagle/wreath is not more like customs than police. But it is certainly not a familiar insignia for the Reichspost. I would expect a Sport Tag with itsnown tinnie to have been sponsored by an organization of greater breadth then the postal censorship office. Local police organizations did sponsor events bringing in all police and SS competitors in the area.

            I searched for the Auslandsbrief Prufstelle in the 1943 Taschenbuch f. Verwaltungsbeamten but found nothing in the section on the Reichspostministerium. But I did find your apparent source in the SHAEF police report paragraph 106. But the SHAEF information relates that until 1944, these offices were controlled by Section III N of the old Abwehr. i still have a hard time with a local or even national Abwehr censorship office sponsoring a Sport Tag in 1941.
            Last edited by JoeW; 09-27-2015, 05:35 PM.

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              #7
              tinnie

              Thanks for the info Joe. Well now I know there are at least two tinnies out there.

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                #8
                tinnie

                Ok, after some extensive searching, I`ve come up with very little on this tinnie other then there was an ABP office in Frankfurt am Main. Could it be possible that this event was sponsored by the police with members of the ABP in attendance?

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                  #9
                  tinnie.

                  Any other thoughts on this tinnie would be greatly appreciated.

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                    #10
                    This is Feldpost censorship....inbound

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                      In the archive collection of the "Institut für Stadtgeschichte/Stadtarchiv Frankurt am Main" there

                      are documents from an asset of the German teacher Eduard Ziehen who was in the staff of the

                      Auslandsbriefprüfstelle during WW2 in Frankfurt.

                      This is the entry in the file record:





                      Bestandsname:

                      Ziehen, Eduard: Nachlass (asset)

                      Umfang (amount):
                      24 Kästen (24 boxes)


                      Laufzeit (period):
                      1923 - 1945


                      Institutions-/Personengeschichte:
                      *1896, +1945. Studienrat an der Musterschule. Sohn des Pädagogen Julius Z. Seit 1925 Studienrat an der Fter Musterschule. ...

                      Während des Zweiten Weltkrieges in der Auslandsbriefprüfstelle (ABP) der Deutschen Wehrmacht, die im Gesellschaftshaus des Frankfurter Zoologischen Gartens untergebracht war, stationiert. Dort v.a. zuständig für die Überprüfung der Korrespondenz der Kriegsgefangenen


                      Bestandsbeschreibung (description of the files):

                      Personalpapiere; Schule und Studium; Materialsammlung, insbes. zur mittelrheinischen Geschichte; Vorbereitungshefte für den Deutsch-, Geschichts- und Fremdsprachenunterricht in der Musterschule;

                      Unterlagen zur Auslandsbriefprüfstelle der Deutschen Wehrmacht (=ABP): Alphabetische Stichwortverzichnisse in versch. Sprachen, Lageberichte, Presseausschnitte aus französischen und amerikanischen Zeitungen
                      .


                      Findmittel: Record number):
                      Rep. 563 "

                      I think this could be a help!


                      Gerdan

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                        Abp

                        Originally posted by Gerdan View Post
                        In the archive collection of the "Institut für Stadtgeschichte/Stadtarchiv Frankurt am Main" there

                        are documents from an asset of the German teacher Eduard Ziehen who was in the staff of the

                        Auslandsbriefprüfstelle during WW2 in Frankfurt.

                        This is the entry in the file record:





                        Bestandsname:

                        Ziehen, Eduard: Nachlass (asset)

                        Umfang (amount):
                        24 Kästen (24 boxes)


                        Laufzeit (period):
                        1923 - 1945


                        Institutions-/Personengeschichte:
                        *1896, +1945. Studienrat an der Musterschule. Sohn des Pädagogen Julius Z. Seit 1925 Studienrat an der Fter Musterschule. ...

                        Während des Zweiten Weltkrieges in der Auslandsbriefprüfstelle (ABP) der Deutschen Wehrmacht, die im Gesellschaftshaus des Frankfurter Zoologischen Gartens untergebracht war, stationiert. Dort v.a. zuständig für die Überprüfung der Korrespondenz der Kriegsgefangenen


                        Bestandsbeschreibung (description of the files):

                        Personalpapiere; Schule und Studium; Materialsammlung, insbes. zur mittelrheinischen Geschichte; Vorbereitungshefte für den Deutsch-, Geschichts- und Fremdsprachenunterricht in der Musterschule;

                        Unterlagen zur Auslandsbriefprüfstelle der Deutschen Wehrmacht (=ABP): Alphabetische Stichwortverzichnisse in versch. Sprachen, Lageberichte, Presseausschnitte aus französischen und amerikanischen Zeitungen
                        .


                        Findmittel: Record number):
                        Rep. 563 "

                        I think this could be a help!


                        Gerdan
                        Gerdan!!! Thank you!! This is a big help!!!!! Now all I have to do is get it translated!!! (:
                        Last edited by Chris Lee; 10-19-2016, 04:09 PM.

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                          tinnie

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                            tinnie

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                              #15
                              tinnie

                              Folks, if anyone can translate what Gerdan sent me, I`d greatly appreciate it!!! Thanks!!

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