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    Rzm And Ges. Gesch: Fake?

    any thoughts?
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      The back is too small and dark. Any chance of a better photo? If not, can you tell me if there is an "M1" number. All I can make out is the RZM logo and the GES. GESCH.
      Last edited by sjl; 01-04-2005, 05:23 PM.

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        there is a number 63 back there.
        Iam Uncle Sam
        That’s who Iam
        Been hiding out
        In a rock and roll band

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          A better picture is needed before I can say for sure, but the combination of RZM logo, "63" and "GES. GESCH." is possible for an original badge.

          If original, this NSV badge was made in the first half of 1935. The RZM logo became mandatory on Jan. 16, 1935, and manufacturer numbers were first assigned in March, 1935. The "M" code prefixes were finalized shortly after that. This badge would date from that short period. "63" (later M1/63) belonged to Steinhauer & Luck. Steinhauer & Luck was busy during this early period, as you find many of their badges marked this way (especially Frauenschaft badges).The NSV's insignia was under RZM jurisdiction.

          "GES. GESCH." means the design and use was legally protected and manufactured under license. The RZM system made this redundant since the RZM was a complete licensing system, and many manufacturers dropped it from badges. Some kept it, especially on early badges.

          Hope this helps.

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