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    How many Sieger badges were awarded?

    I was wondering if there are some numbers known of how many Sieger badges were awarded?

    Kr
    Pascal


    #2
    Hi Pascal,


    Do you mean Reichsberuffwettkampf Sieger badges?


    Regards, Wim
    Freedom is not for Free

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      #3
      Originally posted by Pascal H. View Post
      I was wondering if there are some numbers known of how many Sieger badges were awarded?

      Kr
      Pascal
      Figures for 1939 were: 508 Reich, 6501 Gau and approximately 40 000 Kreissiegers.

      cheers

      Matt

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        #4
        Originally posted by Pascal H. View Post
        I was wondering if there are some numbers known of how many Sieger badges were awarded?

        Kr
        Pascal
        I am not sure how many were awarded ..... but Stuart owns most of them.

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          #5
          Originally posted by rlimike View Post
          I am not sure how many were awarded ..... but Stuart owns most of them.



          Regards, Wim
          Freedom is not for Free

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            #6
            Originally posted by Wim Vangossum View Post
            Hi Pascal,


            Do you mean Reichsberuffwettkampf Sieger badges?


            Regards, Wim
            Hi Wim,

            Yes, i do mean Reichsberuffswettkampf badges in the three categories.

            @Matt, thanks, do you also got the numbers for the other years?

            Kr
            Pascal

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              #7
              Numbers above come from the book Grundlagen der Deutschen Sozialordnung. They only mention the year 1939.

              In 1936 there were 671 participants, in 1937 3224 and in 1938 6323.


              Regards, Wim
              Freedom is not for Free

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                #8
                Originally posted by Pascal H. View Post
                I was wondering if there are some numbers known of how many Sieger badges were awarded?

                Kr
                Pascal
                Hi,

                We started this project back in 2012 on the Hitler Youth Forum:

                http://www.hj-research.com/forum/f56...pf-final-7021/

                (page 1 result 1 on Google for "how many Reichssieger badges were awarded" )

                Verifiable totals of Reichssieger badges awarded were established for all relevant years except 1936 but we do know how many were at the finals that year so we have a rough idea of how many badges were awarded. We hope to find a verifiable figure for 1936 at some point.
                Last edited by Garry M.; 03-22-2015, 05:30 AM.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Garry M. View Post
                  Verifiable totals of Reichssieger badges....
                  Gary, thats what we all should be looking for, verifiable, researched answers - with the period source for future reference, and not just a copied and pasted figure you found on Google with no reference.

                  This is why we are where we are today, because of copy & paste enthusiasts.

                  The HJ forum is a pleasure for researchers, they are not simply confronted with stolen figures, but in most cases there will be a source attached, or a pointer to a period reference where the info comes from. It is so frustrating to try and research "something" only to be forced to wade through multiple goofy opinions and figures, with zero period reference! The whole point about footnotes/sources/references, is so that the interested individual can proceed with his own research - in the right direction - and because of the period pointer, knows where to start.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Garry M. View Post
                    Hi,

                    We started this project back in 2012 on the Hitler Youth Forum:

                    http://www.hj-research.com/forum/f56...pf-final-7021/

                    (page 1 result 1 on Google for "how many Reichssieger badges were awarded" )

                    Verifiable totals of Reichssieger badges awarded were established for all relevant years except 1936 but we do know how many were at the finals that year so we have a rough idea of how many badges were awarded. We hope to find a verifiable figure for 1936 at some point.

                    Many thanks Gary.
                    Very impressive and very good research.

                    I am wondering if there are also numbers know for the Kreis- and Gausieger badges besides 1939?

                    Reason for asking these numbers is that after years of searching and missing out on several deals and bids I final managed to acquire the very rare 1944 Reichssieger badge in mint condition.

                    Looking at your site I see that only 373 were awarded. I imagine that the total number of produced badges is higher but still a very rare badge.

                    Kr
                    Pascal

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                      #11
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                      Originally posted by Pascal H. View Post
                      @Matt, thanks, do you also got the numbers for the other years?
                      Pascal
                      Sorry Pascal, no numbers for other years that I know of.

                      cheers

                      Matt

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                        #12
                        Thanks Pascal. Good idea to include the Kreis- and Gausieger. I've updated the table and will add to it as and when information comes in.

                        Thanks Jo

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Garry M. View Post
                          Thanks Pascal. Good idea to include the Kreis- and Gausieger. I've updated the table and will add to it as and when information comes in.

                          Thanks Jo
                          That looks really good.
                          Once completed this will be a fantastic reference for all who are interested in the HJ and those who are researching the HJ.

                          Kr
                          Pascal

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                            #14
                            Thanks Pascal. Much appreciated.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Pascal H. View Post
                              I was wondering if there are some numbers known of how many Sieger badges were awarded?

                              Kr
                              Pascal
                              Thank you for starting this thread !!!! It's Very, very interesting info !!!! Tom

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