Political tie pin?

[Pwb75]

Hi everyone,

Sorry if this is the wrong place for this, but could someone tell me if they know what this is or have seen one before?
I think it could be a private purchase piece, but any help would be appreciated.
Also included is a picture of its box.
Thanks, Paul

[Pwb75]

More pics, sry havet got the hang of resizing yet!

[Wim Vangossum]

Never seen this before. But it looks period to me.

Regards, Wim

[Carsten135]

The item is original imo, looks like a partei , SA tieclips or a early SS, these was custom made for high ranks. it might be one of a few so keep it in your collection
congrat. whit your find

cheers

[Pwb75]

Pin

Thanks for the comments Carsten and Wim, appreciate it.
It does look nice quality, and nice having the box too!

[Military]

Possibly private purchase?

In my opinion the eagle rings bells - the swastika somehow does not conform to the usual embossed effect but rather a raised style.

See http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=495881

[Br. James]

Yes, quite a find indeed, the like of which I've never seen before. But I wonder if your identifying it as a "tie pin" might be a bit off the mark? Tie clips, then as now, usually come with a means of restraining the necktie without penetrating the fabric; only stickpins and tie tacs actually pass through the fabric. I'm wondering whether this could be a woman's brooch or scarf pin, which would normally include a pinning device like this? It certainly would make an attractive attachment on a blouse, akin to the Luftwaffe Combined Pilot-Observer Badge worn as a brooch by Hanna Reitsch!

The box also resembles one made for a piece of jewelry; perhaps this piece was created especially for the wife of a high-ranking Party official, who may also have been a Partei Genosse? The maker's logo is that of a jeweler.

Are there any maker's marks anywhere on the reverse or on the clip device? It may even be made of gold, or perhaps solid silver gold-plated? Yes, quite a find!

Br. James

[Pwb75]

Hi James, thanks for the info. I couldn't think what it was except a tie pin, but your opinion sounds alot better! Im at wrk at the moment so will look for markings later, but from memory there isn't anything except on one end of the pin. Not sure if that's a actual marking tho. Will have a look a post back. Thanks again. Paul

[Br. James]

Thanks Paul; glad to help. This is an unusual and dramatic piece. While I can't make out much of the wording on the two seals on the box lid, I do see "Uhren & Goldwaren" -- "Timepieces & Gold Merchandise" -- so this was probably made by a higher-end jeweler in Rostock in Gau Mecklenburg-Lübeck, perhaps even one-of-a-kind. Wouldn't it be nice to find that it was ordered by Gauleiter Friedrich Hildebrandt as a present for his wife or his girlfriend?

I did notice something that looked like a marking on the pin point retainer on the reverse; perhaps that is a gold-content or silver-content stamp or a set of jeweler's symbols...? I look forward to seeing anything else you can share about this unique piece.

Br. James

[Pwb75]

Hi again James, sry haven't got back to you sooner, I've been working away.
I do appreciate your help and will look for any possible markings as soon as I can .
Best wishes, Paul.

[Carsten135]

hi thre

You can try contact the maker he still exist and still a juweler, just whit another owner. you might get a answear if you contact him or they might have some old record of the sale for to the 3 reich. hes addresse is :
Firma: Alfred Bekropat Inh. Paul Liersch
Straße: Barnstorfer Weg 20
PLZ: 18057
Ort: Rostock
Deutschland

or get this link for futher digging and you mght find.
http://www.juwelierschmiede.de/schmu...n-rostock-2386

cheers mate

[Pwb75]

Thanks alot Carsten that's great information! Really appreciate it.
My German isn't good Lol, but I will contact them and see if they can help.
Thanks again, Paul.

[Br. James]

Thanks for your resply, Paul, and I look forward to hearing what marking you may find on the pin. And Carsten's info is also a great lead; if you pursue, we'd like to know what you find out. Happy hunting,

Br. James