Und Ihr habt doch Gesiegt

[Eric Stahlhut]

Feldherrnhalle tinny.

[Eric Stahlhut]

How many different makers were there?

[Mike Pinkus]

Eric
no idea how many but the oones i have seen in the past were solid brass not the hollow stamped like this one, though i believe they were the same maker...nice piece
mike
http://enamelsofwar.homestead.com

How many different makers were there?

[James Noble]

Eric, Nice tinnie you should have Mike move it to the tinnie wars forum. As to how many markers for this one that would really be hard to answer.

[Eric Stahlhut]

Thanks very much, guys, for the input!

[WARLORD]

It has been brought forward by David Littlejohn that this is infact an award of the HJ for those who took part in the Putch. This would give rise to the badge in solid form which very often was produced to replace the early badge. The information is in an article in Military Adviser. My thoughts are that this is the locical view of this EXTREMLY RARE badge.

[VerKuilen Ager]

It has been brought forward by David Littlejohn that this is infact an award of the HJ for those who took part in the Putch. This would give rise to the badge in solid form which very often was produced to replace the early badge. The information is in an article in Military Adviser. My thoughts are that this is the locical view of this EXTREMLY RARE badge.

At first glance the HJ putsch commemorative/award idea would seem to make sense. However, a close look at the early history of the HJ shows that such recognition would have been impossible. In a nutshell, the Reichsjugendführung was absolutely adamant that the Hitler Youth was not formed until 1926. See this thread (http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...highlight=Lenk) for a detailed chronology that involves the political infighting connected with similar items of the Jungsturm Adolf Hitler (which have also -- almost certainly erroneously -- been given the status of NSDAP awards by my friend David Littlejohn and others).

[Don Scowen]

At first glance the HJ putsch commemorative/award idea would seem to make sense. However, a close look at the early history of the HJ shows that such recognition would have been impossible. In a nutshell, the Reichsjugendführung was absolutely adamant that the Hitler Youth was not formed until 1926. See this thread (http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...highlight=Lenk) for a detailed chronology that involves the political infighting connected with similar items of the Jungsturm Adolf Hitler (which have also -- almost certainly erroneously -- been given the status of NSDAP awards by my friend David Littlejohn and others).

Fascinating thread, thanks for the link, I missed that thread at the time.

Cheers
Don

[John Bart]

Here's the solid one that Mike & WARLORD refers to....

[John Bart]

Same maker

[John Bart]

Und Ihr habt doch Gesiegt .. Another

Similar Design

[John Bart]

Different maker

[John Bart]

WARLORD,
How right you are! This is the first stamped construction piece I have ever seen.
I've been looking for this one for ages.

Eric,
Great piece! Thanks for sharing it.

... John

[Ralph A]

Mine.

Solid construction. Reverse is same as John's.

[Ralph A]

Speaking of similarities...

Though the maker is "Funcke u Brüninghaus Lüdenscheid", they look alike in some ways. Also solid construction.