Opinions wanted

[Hasse.M]

Im going to put this 3 on estand if they are the real deal.
I know they dont cost much but if real what is a fair price?

Party-pin: marked: RZM M1/105
HJ tinnie: marked: Ges Gesch M1 78
SA stickpin: marked: GES.GESCHUTZT (I think)

Some pics
And thank you for taking time!

[Hasse.M]

Obverse:

[Hasse.M]

Dont know what the f*ck happend with the reverse pics, please tell me if you need better one's.

[Brig]

I've never held an SA stickpin, but the fact that the pin has the spiraled shaft is a good start

The NSDAP badges seems alright to me, I'm not sure about the number on it as I am not at my resource to check such things, but the RZM mark is correct and the stipling is nice, and the letters all look correct. Take a close look at the white portion for TINY black flecks. Era pieces were glazed glass, which during the firing process developed these tiny black flecks. Modern day repros are made with plastic and do not have them. They are very tiny, so using a magnifying glass if you have it

As for HJ badges, I have minimal experience with them, I don't really like the HJ, but the stipling looks nice. Need clearer rear pics. Also, look for the black flecks on this piece as well

As for real, if they are I believe the stickpin fetches around 25 bucks, HJ badges fetch around 45, and membership badges fetch 45-65 (I got lucky and got mine for 26 at a local antique store I worked and sold at part time ). I might be interested in the membership badge if it is indeed original.

[Hasse.M]

Thank you Brig for taking time!
I'll post some better pics later tonight and look at them with a magnifying glass..

You got the first shot at the party pin if original, to a fair price.
Best regards!

[Hasse.M]

pic 1:

[Hasse.M]

SA stick pin:

[Hasse.M]

pin reverse:

[Brig]

okay, posting this to see if I can see the pics. for some reason, my PC doesn't like to show direct attachments unless I reply

[Brig]

both pieces look alright in my book, let's see if you can get a few more opinions

[James Noble]

Your pins look fine, the problem with your pictures is your camera is focusing on the cloth instead of the pin.

[Hasse.M]

Your pins look fine, the problem with your pictures is your camera is focusing on the cloth instead of the pin.

no ****..

[Don Scowen]

Take a close look at the white portion for TINY black flecks. Era pieces were glazed glass, which during the firing process developed these tiny black flecks. Modern day repros are made with plastic and do not have them. They are very tiny, so using a magnifying glass if you have it

Brig,

Does this apply to all period white enamel on badges & medals or does it only apply to membership pins?

Cheers
Don

[Brig]

I'd assume all, as plastic was not used in enameling back then, glass was used...

I suppose any era enameled piece that has a good bit of white on it this would apply to...

here's a site on NSDAP badges, BTW

http://www.nsdapbadges.com/

[Don Scowen]

[QUOTE=Brig]

I'd assume all, as plastic was not used in enameling back then, glass was used...

I suppose any era enameled piece that has a good bit of white on it this would apply to...

here's a site on NSDAP badges, BTW

http://www.nsdapbadges.com/

[/QUOTE]

Thanks Brig,

I suppose the next logical question is, does anyone know when glass discontinued in enamel production? e.g. was plasitc used in the fakes produced in the '70's?

I tried the web address but the link didn't seem to work. Cheers anyway.

Regards
Don