I'm not going to argue with you. Your conclusions of award numbers are historically not in context IMHO. That every able bodied person was drafted over the age of 16 and these awards not for persons under 16, who was left where and in what context to earn those awards at these huge numbers through 1944. I have to reject your theories. My own mother was drafted in 1942 at 16. An avid horse rider in shows there would have been no way she could work on the requirements for badges while on active duty.
Contextually taking that example further, badges earned in Russia, I expect few to none. Badges earned on other active fronts, few to none. Very likely men and women stationed in easy areas could have found the time but again, contextually, the population of men and women who could be available to work on these badges was dwindling. Numbers of badges would decline certainly not grow.
Nice talking to you Naxos, I'm sure you'll put in the last word here but it won't be historically accurate. I think I can guess how you might look at the Urkunde Nr. and making "assumptions" about how YOU interpret the number.
The number on the certificate in front of me might mean this is the xxxxx'th Reiter related Badge. I don't think it's the xxxxx'th Reiter Badge in Bronze. I would be tempted to believe it is the xxxxx'th Reiter badge, but not in bronze! But we'll see what evidence you might have to shed light on the question. The Urkunde has the person filling out the paper mark whether it is Gold/Silver/Bronze. I would tend toward all Urkundes for all grades sequentially marked without regard to a new set of numbers each for gold/silver/bronze.
You also say the "R" on the badges was not outlawed postwar. Nevertheless, EVERYONE knew what it stood for, REICH. And no one would wear one postwar because the "R" directly stood for Hitler. Contextually and historically that is reality. So to suggest S&L stamped out "R" badges in a postwar Germany makes no sense. The population was very happy the war was over and the devastation of the war the German people knew lay directly on Hitler's doorstep. An "R" badge worn in public would NOT have been acceptable.
But this thread I started years ago is now so polluted with non reiter sport related photos, why don't you publish your theory and proof with photos in a new thread. If in fact it makes sense I'll offer up a photo of mine.
When you were asked if the photos you posted were Staegemeir's you answered "I don't think so." Why didn't you say "no"?
Contextually taking that example further, badges earned in Russia, I expect few to none. Badges earned on other active fronts, few to none. Very likely men and women stationed in easy areas could have found the time but again, contextually, the population of men and women who could be available to work on these badges was dwindling. Numbers of badges would decline certainly not grow.
Nice talking to you Naxos, I'm sure you'll put in the last word here but it won't be historically accurate. I think I can guess how you might look at the Urkunde Nr. and making "assumptions" about how YOU interpret the number.
The number on the certificate in front of me might mean this is the xxxxx'th Reiter related Badge. I don't think it's the xxxxx'th Reiter Badge in Bronze. I would be tempted to believe it is the xxxxx'th Reiter badge, but not in bronze! But we'll see what evidence you might have to shed light on the question. The Urkunde has the person filling out the paper mark whether it is Gold/Silver/Bronze. I would tend toward all Urkundes for all grades sequentially marked without regard to a new set of numbers each for gold/silver/bronze.
You also say the "R" on the badges was not outlawed postwar. Nevertheless, EVERYONE knew what it stood for, REICH. And no one would wear one postwar because the "R" directly stood for Hitler. Contextually and historically that is reality. So to suggest S&L stamped out "R" badges in a postwar Germany makes no sense. The population was very happy the war was over and the devastation of the war the German people knew lay directly on Hitler's doorstep. An "R" badge worn in public would NOT have been acceptable.
But this thread I started years ago is now so polluted with non reiter sport related photos, why don't you publish your theory and proof with photos in a new thread. If in fact it makes sense I'll offer up a photo of mine.
When you were asked if the photos you posted were Staegemeir's you answered "I don't think so." Why didn't you say "no"?
Hitler, and all..
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