Rare Hybrid

[Martin Harding]

Hello, pictured below are two 1938 SA Gruppe Franken Tinnies, 'big deal nothing unusual here' you all might say.....well look again

[Martin Harding]

1938 SA Gruppe Franken Tinnies

Reverse

[Chris Lee]

Tinnie

Misstamp of the date. Would this increase the value?

[Martin Harding]

Misstamp of the date. Would this increase the value?

Hello Chris, yes you are correct, both are identical 1-¾ diameter 1938 die struck aluminium examples with typical spring pin and both with characteristics associated with this particular maker. However one example has the inverted sword / upside down date and would be considerably more valuable. The most ironic part is the two badges came together. Hence the original owner must have been an advanced collector.

[mametz]

Very strange! the one i have is similar to the one on the left, but on mine
the date is upside down. The badge on the right has the upside down
date but has the date numerals wrong, confusing or what?
Regards
Mametz

[mametz]

I have just got back from the pub so i am confused anyway, but looking
again the badge on the right is the correct version but has some damage
or wear to the date. Could you post a pic of both badges turned around
with the date on the bottom.
Mametz

[Martin Harding]

I have just got back from the pub so i am confused anyway, but looking
again the badge on the right is the correct version but has some damage
or wear to the date. Could you post a pic of both badges turned around
with the date on the bottom.
Mametz

Hello Mametz, the Badges look better after a few drinks pictures as requested
Regards Martin

[Chris Lee]

tinnie

Now this has got me curious. I`ll have to locate mine and see if they`re the same.

[Chris Lee]

tinnie

According to Tieste`s book, the version on the right is correct

[Martin Harding]

According to Tieste`s book, the version on the right is correct

Hello Chris, I might be putting my neck in the block here but isn't it the other way around the left one is the correct version and the right is the hybrid version
Regards Martin

[Chris Lee]

tinnie

Not according to Tieste.

[Martin Harding]

Reinhard's Gin Joint can't be wrong can it ?

How on earth did I ever get involved with Tinnies
I will check it out Chris
Regards Martin

[Chris Lee]

tinnie

Heres mine!

[James Noble]

I have looked in three different books even my copy Tieste’s 94 catalog and they all show the same type as the one Martin has posted on the left.

[Martin Harding]

Hello Chris, that is the same as my example on the left hand side isn't it which is correct version. The one on the right is the seldom encountered version...... ermmmh I think................Now I have totally lost the plot
Regards Martin