SS Stick Pin manufactured by Otto Gahr

[John Pepera]

# 7391 obverse.

In finale, the Gahr pins are of perfect enamel and of a higher quality than of their Hoffstetter counterpart.

Also, make note that on the Gahr examples, the outer silver ring is noticably larger than with the Hoffstetter pieces.

John Pepera

[iltisfront]

hello John Pepera
thank you very much for showing me the backsides of your pins, i could never find pictures like yours in the net, do you know how much of these pins were produced by Gahr
Lars Freese

[iltisfront]

hello John,
this is me again, i have another question to you, do you know if the case of your Pin is original for this pin , i had started a thread last year and showed a golden spain cross pin that was in case too and the case it was inside looks like the case from your Gahr pin, so i ask myself if it could be a normal jewelry case that was used for different pins by different makers
her is the link: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=157165

[Wim Vangossum]

It's great when an expert take the time to show his magnificant stuff. It makes things so easy to understand and to learn. Those few pictures are like a treasure to me. Never saw a Gahr before, exept the black and white picture in Cone's book. Thanks to Mr Pepera

Regards, Theo

[Seiler]

And I have the ULTIMATE...No.1.....
Seiler

[Pieter Verbruggen]

Hi, your Otto Gahr pin is correct,...but this "the master" himselve ,my friend and fellow SS collector,John Pepera already told you. When it comes to these things he ha "A" SUPER collection!!!! And I've seen a lot but his one is .
Pieter.

[Pieter Verbruggen]

It's great when an expert take the time to show his magnificant stuff. It makes things so easy to understand and to learn. Those few pictures are like a treasure to me. Never saw a Gahr before, exept the black and white picture in Cone's book. Thanks to Mr Pepera

Regards, Theo

...I never showed you my cased one???
Pieter.

[Pieter Verbruggen]

And I have the ULTIMATE...No.1.....
Seiler

....I doubt it, as I know where it is....and his one was not #1
Pieter.

[Pieter Verbruggen]

Gahr # 7676

John with all respect...it's 1616 (not 7676 as it a German "1" not an American "7". Even better,no?

Pieter

[Seiler]

Who is "His"?
Seiler

[Wim Vangossum]

...I never showed you my cased one???
Pieter.

No Pieter, you diden't. But I have seen a lot other magnificant things the times I visited you. Sometimes I was even to "newbie" to understand what stunning stuff I saw. Most of It I will never be able to see on other places exept on pictures in expensive reference works. But whatever, the things I have seen with my one eyes make me still feel like a king.

Regards, Theo

[John Pepera]

Pieter,

It was my pleasue to have you to visit and see my collection.
The next time we really must make more time to chat and enjoy a meal together.

Thanks for the serial number correction. I really should have realized the number '1' as opposed to the number '7' which has the cross bar on the stem of the number.

John

[John Pepera]

Hello Lars Freese,

I sincerly do believe that the case that I have shown is an original Gahr case and it is the one that I bought directly from J.R. Cone many years ago. I have another exact like case which also houses a Gahr pin and when I bought it, the dealer didn't know anything about the Cone pin or have any assocaition with that dealer.

However, concerning your case and your thoughts concerning the case being a generic jeweler's case, is a plausable thought considering that Gahr was a jeweler. However, I would think that with your Spanish Cross pin, others that have more information in this area would be more familiar with an authentic Spanish Cross case. In the past I have seen a cased Spanish Cross pin and had it been in a red case as discussed, for sure I would have remembered that.

As to the numbers made by Gahr, as you can see by my examples, I have a low number of 1616 and a high number in the area of 11872 which gives no ideas as to the amounts that Gahr produecd or any ideas as to whom the recipients could be.

Lars, you say that you are in contact with the original recipient of your pin. Are you able to ask that person under what circumstances he received his pin and why he bought it from Gahr and not from the regular dealer, Hoffstetter? Also, was your contact a high ranking person or a early member or attached to any special unit or awarded or made eligible due to any special circumstances?

Answers and information as such would go a long way in uncovering more about these elusive Gahr badges.

Regards,

John

[Bob Hritz]

In all the years I have collected, I never found a Gahr SS member's pin. I suppose I will go to the grave without finding one.

Bob Hritz

[Mike Clayton]

I've been looking for an SS member's stick pin by Gahr for 25 years, and never have seen one other than J.R. Cone's book! I've seen one's by Hoffstatter that look good, nice enamel, correct size (14.5 mm) and nice pin, but I've always wanted a Gahr pin. Glad to see others are interested in this fine stick pin. I must say also that most of the SS member's Stick pins out there are fakes.