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    #31
    Definately different than this one: http://www.therupturedduck.com/WebPa...edals/m004.htm
    pseudo-expert

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      #32
      Just some additional info .... according to Forman's Guide 3rd edition copy. 2001:

      In 2001 the 3rd class was estimated at $15,000, then the case another $4,500 ..... close to $20k 5 years ago

      The examples by Forman and Angolia have a pin that doesnt have bottle neck shape with as much curve as yours. It is a more gradual curve to the widest part in the center.

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        #33
        ethreecee
        IMHO you knew this was a fake from the get go. I recognize you from ebay and epier when you sold these as high quality reproductions a few years back.

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          #34
          The one at Bill Shea's site (The Ruptured Duck - link above) clearly shows the way the wreath around the party badge should be in an original, as well as the fire gilt. Bill's German Order is exquisite, even at $16,500.

          I'm personally glad the repros were made using another repro as the model.

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            #35
            fake

            If you followed this thread from the beginning like you should, before casting inuendos, you would have read and seen that I said I had produce 250 reproductions from this piece! tsk, tsk...such things to say without reading first!

            I have never sold any my repros as originals and you know that!
            I take pride in my workmanship. I have never misled any of my customers!
            Here is an example of the pin talked about.
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              #36
              The pin
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                #37
                reproduction

                This is the reproduction and you can clearly see the difference....
                Cyrus Lee sells my reproduction on FHQ
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                  #38
                  Sorry - I think you misunderstood me. I never suggested these were being sold as originals.

                  In a world of near perfect fakes I am happy that less adavanced collectors have the chance to buy an excellent repro without danger of it falling into the unscrupulous secondary market to be sold as an original. Frankly, I think all "museum copies" should be stamped REPRO on the back to keep people less honest than yourself from passing them off as originals.

                  That's all I was trying to say.

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                    #39
                    I understand

                    Thank you and I understand. I have invested a good deal of money on R&D and production to give these quality repros. I always leave a hallmark to indicate my work
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                      #40
                      hallmark

                      another hallmark
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                        #41
                        hallmark

                        one more
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                          #42
                          I got one of these a couple of years ago on yahoos auction site from ethreecee2004 for $25.00... $25.00 was all it was worth for this bauble. Strange how the seller then, matches this one, Anyways 5 of these same items were sold on yahoo auctions that same month from ethreecee2004

                          here is a link to the auction.

                          http://pageuser.auctions.yahoo.com/auction/84397221

                          and the seller

                          http://ratings.auctions.yahoo.com/sh...ethreecee2004&


                          in not sure it still works given the time passed

                          make your own minds up
                          Last edited by Craigob; 01-03-2006, 07:02 PM.

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                            #43
                            I saw those oakleave and sword on ebay recently, sold for 90$ from the same seller who was trying to sold a real (fake) for 25000$ and I am not sure, but I believe this oak set got your stamp behind. I hope he is not a friend of yours.

                            http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?...ayphotohosting

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                              #44
                              this may be of help....just click link

                              http://www.catalogue.com.pl/nsdap/n.html

                              then click priesliste..:

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                                #45
                                Thank you all for your contributions and opinions.

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