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    Political Desk Eagle

    Hi friends

    I’d like to hear opinions about this piece posted maybe in another wrong thread.

    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...13#post8393713

    Could I have please your opinions?

    Thanks in advance, cheers

    #2
    I like it. Any maker marks ?

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      #3
      Sorry but I don’t like it. The sculpting of the eagle is incorrect. Good detail does not mean original. I will stick to textbook pieces.

      Mil

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        #4
        Please do tell us what is "textbook"? is there a 3rd reich era published book on these types of eagles?

        I just love it when experts speakin riddles and vagueness,

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          #5
          I think it is one of those copies ordered by and made for germaniainternational. You can still find a picture on the webside. In this case it is even said, that they are copies.
          Best, Thomas

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            #6
            Here are 2 known examples....
            that have been proven.
            One lookers
            Nothing to even talk about.
            Compare these 2 to the ones in question
            It’s easy
            And for the guy that left the snide remark to ‘Mil’ about his opinion.....
            The reason we say they are fakes, is because we know about them.
            We do our homework.
            And as a collector, you would be wise to do the same
            Attached Files

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              #7
              Thank you, STLMatt for posting both photos of the nuremberg styled desk eagle, which came in two sizes. The first pic which Matt posted is a larger piece which had a smooth and feathered back variant. The second piece is a much smaller version often on a single tier base. Both are textbook or classic examples.

              Mil

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                #8
                Originally posted by STLMatt View Post
                Here are 2 known examples....
                that have been proven.
                One lookers
                Nothing to even talk about.
                Compare these 2 to the ones in question
                It’s easy
                And for the guy that left the snide remark to ‘Mil’ about his opinion.....
                The reason we say they are fakes, is because we know about them.
                We do our homework.
                And as a collector, you would be wise to do the same
                Thanks for posting the pictures. They definitely answered my question.
                Regards,
                Michael H.

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                  #9
                  The flat-back version was just sold at an auction yesterday for 2150euros not including taxes, commission and postage.

                  Mil

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                    #10
                    Some good threads for reference, especially the study done by Michael (thanks, Michael).

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=desk+eagle

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=desk+eagle

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ght=desk+eagle

                    Mil

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Military View Post
                      The flat-back version was just sold at an auction yesterday for 2150euros not including taxes, commission and postage.

                      Mil
                      Yep
                      I was bidding up until about 1150€
                      The 17.5% plus shipping was a deal breaker for me

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                        #12
                        I see no mention of it in any of the above links, but would imagine that the majority of these eagles were cast in Spelter.
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelter
                        Regards,
                        Pete

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by STLMatt View Post
                          Yep
                          I was bidding up until about 1150€
                          The 17.5% plus shipping was a deal breaker for me
                          Prices have gone up considerably in recent years. 2150 + 17.5% = 2526euros or US$2840 (not including shipping and credit card and shipping taxes). That's a US$3k piece. Congrats to buyer!

                          Mil

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Wood View Post
                            I see no mention of it in any of the above links, but would imagine that the majority of these eagles were cast in Spelter.
                            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spelter
                            Regards,
                            Pete
                            Some of the Heer table medals were made of spelter.
                            It’s considerably softer and more fragile than these HB, and RZM variant birds were discussing.
                            I’ll post a picture of my Heer table eagle that is made of spelter, and silver washed
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