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    Cultural Bread Plate

    I've searched the threads and see these are somewhat controversial as to trying to decipher if SS (period piece) versus not period, etc. Anyone with any expertise that can speak on this one? No maker mark on the reverse. Thanks for any help.
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    The tekst is Dutch and has a Christian motto.
    Yes it has a life rune, but this has nothing to do with SS, although it seems to be a period (20's to 50's) piece

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      #3
      Originally posted by Dmv View Post
      The tekst is Dutch and has a Christian motto.
      Yes it has a life rune, but this has nothing to do with SS, although it seems to be a period (20's to 50's) piece
      Not too long ago one member here shared a period pic of an SS wedding ceremony from 1944 in which the couple was pictured next to their wedding plate bearing the inscription:

      Unser täglich Brot gib uns heute.

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        Yes, it is Dutch text, but would the Dutch SS not have also had the same ceremonial plates given at their weddings? Was there some kind of requirement that such a motto would not be used on a plate? I guess I ask, because there were obviously some differences between the German SS and the the Dutch SS so is it possible more 'Christian' sayings on these plates may have existed in other countries like the Netherlands. Just curious.
        Last edited by wolfslair44; 03-14-2017, 05:40 PM.

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          #5
          Originally posted by wolfslair44 View Post
          Yes, it is Dutch text, but would the Dutch SS not have also had the same ceremonial plates given at their weddings? Was there some kind of requirement that such a motto would not be used on a plate? I guess I ask, because there were obviously some differences between the German SS and the the Dutch SS so is it possible more 'Christian' sayings on these plates may have existed in other countries like the Netherlands. Just curious.
          Anybody else?

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            #6
            Bowl

            IMO, such items are cultural, and it's likely that they were in many SS households, although it's unlikely it has any SS connection other than cultural similarity. Referring to it as a Dutch SS item would be misrepresentation, IMO.
            That doesn't diminish it's appeal, though. Much more likely to be authentic than a carved SS bowl....that's the good news.

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              Originally posted by sgstandard View Post
              IMO, such items are cultural, and it's likely that they were in many SS households, although it's unlikely it has any SS connection other than cultural similarity. Referring to it as a Dutch SS item would be misrepresentation, IMO.
              That doesn't diminish it's appeal, though. Much more likely to be authentic than a carved SS bowl....that's the good news.
              Many thanks for responding guys.

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                #8
                Originally posted by sgstandard View Post
                IMO, such items are cultural, and it's likely that they were in many SS households, although it's unlikely it has any SS connection other than cultural similarity. Referring to it as a Dutch SS item would be misrepresentation, IMO.
                That doesn't diminish it's appeal, though. Much more likely to be authentic than a carved SS bowl....that's the good news.

                I could not agree more, those referring to these plates as being specifically SS are only trying to drive their price up!

                I have one in my collection and like it for what it is, a nice cultural plate and nothing more.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Max Wünsche View Post
                  I could not agree more, those referring to these plates as being specifically SS are only trying to drive their price up!
                  That is why the Kreismuseum Wewelsburg shows one of the SS wedding plates bearing the Scholle dedication officially in their exhibition and publication.

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                    #10
                    I don't think there is a debate that the SS gave these as ceremonial wedding plates. It sounds like from what others are saying, that many homes had similar plates to display, so without provenance from a family member, it's pretty difficult to determine what would be an "SS Plate" versus a "Cultural Plate" that many supporters of the NSDAP would have in their homes. Or am I mistaken?

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                      #11
                      This topic may be of interest: LINK TO A PLATE ON EBAY FOR SALE WITH THE SAME MOTTO

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by jabnus View Post
                        This topic may be of interest: LINK TO A PLATE ON EBAY FOR SALE WITH THE SAME MOTTO
                        Very interested post, among many other threads on the WAF that have Thorsten at the very forefront of the conversation.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Thorsten B. View Post
                          That is why the Kreismuseum Wewelsburg shows one of the SS wedding plates bearing the Scholle dedication officially in their exhibition and publication.
                          More of your cherry-picked delusions can be found in this entertaining thread...

                          http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=438494

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                            #14
                            Doubtless evidence in the SS family book.
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                              #15
                              This post and your sales on the e-stand have been reported to the moderators. I don't see how they can't deny this any longer.

                              Having the ascicial guts to even dare to post this picture i something!!!


                              For the 1000th time at least: just because a German (farmers) cultural item that has been around for centuries BEFORE the existence of the SS and even POST WAR, has been pictured or used by the SS says absolutely nothing. You very well know this, you made countless topics with the same lies, you keep replying the same nonsense with these very same pictures, again again and again, always keep coming up with the same nonsense evidence.


                              So the plate on Ebay (of which there are every day similar ones, with all the same motos you claim are SS and which are all just advertised as regular German items from others times then the Third reich period) is SS too? So are all others offered every day? The same ones you tried to falsify and lie to the WHOLE WAF FORUM on for years? Nonsense.

                              Now, come on, reply with your alias account Quickie. Type some more ilies, show some more non evidence and the same pictures you have posted countless times before. Or are you going to have another conversation with yourself over your multiple forumaliasaccounts Quickie/ThorstenBbeine?

                              Just like every topic before that you got involved in, it will ultimately get locked after people understand the lies. Why you are protected is one of the biggest mysteris on WAF.

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