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    #16
    Thanks, Herd118, for pointing out the presence of the Sterling mark...925...which would certainly rule out Native American work...though that silver count is odd within the German context. I think Dale may have something in his comment that this piece "was used by the Thule Society or maybe the Ahnenerbe" -- or at least created for one of those volkish organizations.

    Br. James

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      #17
      A stunning beautiful piece. Who would not love it?

      Bob Hritz
      In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

      Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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        #18
        Thule society would be a real stretch, I think the 1920's is a stretch personally and would probably date into the 30's. Might of had a base at one time or maybe not. Silver proof is there and I recognize it but cannot find it currently. Its nice.

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          #19
          It looks like whoever designed it may have used the chained SS dagger scabbard for inspiration or maybe it was the other way around. A worrisome thought is that it reminds me of some of the stuff that Nazi Bob over at Germania International has had in the past. In any case as Bob Hritz said it’s beautiful!

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            #20
            Originally posted by DALE ELLIS View Post
            It looks like whoever designed it may have used the chained SS dagger scabbard for inspiration or maybe it was the other way around. A worrisome thought is that it reminds me of some of the stuff that Nazi Bob over at Germania International has had in the past. In any case as Bob Hritz said it’s beautiful!
            Might be above Germania's pay grade for this kind of piece. Always have to be mindful of his site though when an oddball pops up. My guess would be if he were to do this he would construct a stand (typical) and then do a trophy style crappy brass plaque with the wrong engraving and the wrong base material to a known individual and write a description noting it was found in the basement 60 years after the war by a Gnome and bought back to his mushroom house.

            Silver work is nice and its all custom, but not 1920's nice with those exposed hinge pins. Could be a Jaeger maybe, its upscale but not royalty material. Its a neat piece and would pull the photos as it is the kind of piece that could present itself down the road as more than what it is now. Germania is a creature of habit, bad habits and mostly wrong in some way or another and his work is usually easy to spot.

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              #21
              I agree with everyone that it is most likely a TR piece and it would look nice in my collecting room as well. These horns harken back to those ancient Germanic pagan times. Very nice!

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                #22
                Originally posted by Br. James View Post
                This magnificent horn may have absolutely nothing to do with the TR era. The presence of the "backwards" swastikas gives me the feeling that this piece could be a handcraft produced for export by one of the Native American tribes. In the mid-to-late 19th and early 20th centuries, Germany was nationally fascinated by the American 'Wild West,' as was seen in the toys that kids played with in those years. Not only were military subjects the focus of toys such as model soldiers, but equally popular were toys that depicted 'cowboys and indians' in the American West.

                Certainly a beautiful work of art!

                Br. James
                I think some missed part of your point: Some non Amerindians in Europe and Americas (including Canadians) jumped on the Swaz fad around turn of Cent.
                In part from Muller's Linguistic/Cultural -ethnological theories that Sanskrit and its association with the real "Indians (who also are the true Aryans)" from india,use of the Swaz , as well as in great part by the Theosophical Society (where Guido List, etc ideas coalesced in Germany/Austria with the German more racist variant of Theosophy) and in part by a admiration for Amerindians in part due to Karl May's adventure Romane/novels, and Kipling's use of swaz's on his book covers-and in my opinion mostly due the Germans noticing that Amerindians social structure and religion was similar to their own ancestors!.
                I believe, if it is not a 'Germ.Inter.'style made to fool piece, that it is of European make and most likely pre-proto NSDAP era when Adolph set the artistic standard for what side the Krooked Kross slants. Remember Goerings backward swaz emblazoned helmet from the paramilitary Freikamphers era?
                Finally, it is also evoking (on purpose the ancient Germanic tribe of Allemanni's symbol-just like the Black Magic Castle took it from them too, which lends evidence to both ideas of horn being from said castle, and/or being from Northern Europe just pre Nazi era-or during. unfortunately it is also possible evidence it was made to fool...by someone who knows WHAT I know.
                And that IS Germ. Intern.'s Modus Operandi.
                Last edited by Michael Fay; 06-18-2016, 04:48 PM.

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                  #23
                  such craftmanshift is tipically 1930
                  Last edited by jujuy; 06-22-2016, 01:56 AM.

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                    #24
                    Now exactly this drinkhorn is in an auction with the starting bid at 10.000 Euro. There stands that ist from Himmler personally and from wewelsburg castle. Any proofs about this statement?

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                      #25
                      Well, we should ask Kanalhose... Usually the seller tells the auctionhouse what they should write.
                      Best, Thomas

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