Stahlhelm badge with SS on the reverse?

[Gary B]

"Sth" (Stahlhof of Magdeburg) is actually the manufacturing firm for the Service Entry badges. Badges were also produced by Godet (one of the 1918 versions) and Hoffstätter for a mini version.

Gary B

[boballen13]

Der Stahlhelm 1930

I see no markings on the back of the badge and the back surface is mirror polished with a bit of burn mark near where the screw is mounted into the back of the badge. The screw back is marked RZM 115/41 with SS runes enclosed within a circle. It measures the correct 30mm. Its a heavy badge and I would weigh it but its a **** to take off of my cap. I am going a bit bonkers because I just bought ANOTHER ONE Ebay! If these badges are fakes, I am glad they were within budget. Thank you for all your help with a great hobby.Cheers, Bob

[Dave1104]

I was recently given a Stahlhelm pin as well. What is the significance of the engraved markings on the reverse? Do they pertain to a specific meeting or member #?

[chris clark]

Some of my dated badges

[Br. James]

Hi Dave1104,

Congrats on a fine Christmas present...or a fine present whenever you received it! The engraving details the personal information of the individual who received that particular Stahlhelm Bund Commemorative Badge; the individual’s Stahlhelm unit number and the date the individual joined the organization. "Mi." represents Group Mitte.

Fröhliche Weihnachten to you,

Br. James

[Br. James]

Hi Chris,

As I've said before, you have a wonderful collection of Stahlhelm Bund Commemorative Badges! The one I really personally covet is the 1918; I have all of the other years.

Fröhliche Weihnachten to you and yours,

Br. James

[Br. James]

To Boballen13 -- hi, and welcome among us -- it's good to have you here!

Sorry to say that the Stahlhelm Badge you describe does not sound like anything I've ever seen before. I'm afraid that sending in a photo or two is the only way to move this conversation forward...

Again, welcome to you, and Fröhliche Weinachten,

Br. James

[chris clark]

Hi Br James
Mine is a complete set type 1 + 2 pin set up on the 1918. My holy grail
There is a new 1918 fake on the market so be careful

[Br. James]

Will do, Chris, and many thanks for the alert!

Happy holidays,

Br. James

[Dave1104]

Hi Br James. And a Merry Christmas to you as well. I don't suppose that there is any surviving lists of Stahlhelm members in order to match a member number to a name? Also, I assume that Group Mitte refers to the region of Germany?

Best,
Dave

[Br. James]

Hi Dave,

A blessed Christmasstide to you and your family!

I have been collecting Stahlhelm Bund for over 20 years and have never seen any reference to the modern existence of a list of Bund members, either by number, name or group location...but that certainly doesn't mean that such a list -- or lists -- doesn't exist! There surely were such lists during the period. And yes, my assumption is that Group Mitte represented central Germany.

Best to you,

Br. James

[Gary B]

Some of my dated badges

Chris,

What a wonderful collection of Entry Badges. I have never seen one that extensive!

I thought I had read somewhere that you were getting out of collecting??

Are any of the 1918s from Godet (the black boxed one?)?

Gary

[Erich B.]

Hi Br James
Mine is a complete set type 1 + 2 pin set up on the 1918. My holy grail
There is a new 1918 fake on the market so be careful

Do you have any photos of the new fake?
Erich