1931 SA Braunschweig Treffen

[RGD51]

What I don't want to risk is the foolishness of returning a good piece only to find out, in hindsite, that it was simply an early, frugal, rendition that did not have the quality or 'identical details' of another makers but, nevertheless, was original and purchased at the event itself.

Can someone post an absolutely 100% verified counterfeit example of the early round badge? We know for certain the 2nd type has been repro'd....but what about absolute certainty of repro's in the 1st pat round style?

Anyone else have the inside skinny?

Robt.

[ErichS]

Variations may exist but until one of these is seen in a period photo, the type that I posted is the standard with most collectors.

[Matthew]

3 dollar bill

Can someone post an absolutely 100% verified counterfeit example of the early round badge? We know for certain the 2nd type has been repro'd....but what about absolute certainty of repro's in the 1st pat round style?

http://www.ioffer.com/i/1931-ww2-ger...adge-523292243

cheers
Matt

[RGD51]

Not 100% verified counterfeit....that's what we're talking about here now. The type being shown in that ad has doubts but what I was looking for is a vendor that has contemporary repro's of this badge with raised lettering.

I realize some have pretty much made up their minds but I think the jury will remain out on this badge for some time....the grey area will persist because no one can say empirically. I'm straddling the fence, will put my badge back in the case and try to stay on top of any new info or pix that might be forthcoming.

Interesting thread, thanks for your helpful posts and insights.

Robt.

[Matthew]

something about water and a horse

If you're happy with your piece- that's all that matters. On the other hand saying that the jury is still out on this one is a bit misleading.
Did you ever wonder why (if not 100% counterfeit) a piece that I posted a link to on an open forum (possibly biggest forum of collectors of this material worldwide) for a $300 badge the guy is selling for $17 including shipping is still not sold??

cheers
Matt

[Gregorio Torres]

The incused lettering 1st model badge is the only one tested as original by period pictures and iron provenience. The other one shown by Robert has been discused in this forum a lot of times, and finally the main part of the people who trusted in its authenticity were those who had one of them for sale or in their collections, but without evidences or proofs to sustain this thesis.

[RGD51]

Not happy per se regarding my badge but, I think the prevailing wisdom is that the badge is bad, hence no takers for the one you posted for sale.
Can anyone post a known repro of the early round style with 'incused' lettering? Just curious thanks!

Robert

Thanks Gregorio.....I am starting to waffle a tad as the naysayers are pretty convincing.

[D Funk]

I received a round type 1 badge through a US veteran and I believe it is original. We all say our stuff is original but the solder is correct and the finish wear is correct for the age of the piece. There are alot of great items we have that dont have pictures of. I can understand the hesitation to accept the pieces but many of them are very convincing. I am hold on to mine as an original until proven otherwise. We can all agree that there may originals and reproductions of the first type. Just because a guy is selling a fake Knights Cross for $25 doesn't mean that they are all fake.

[Gregorio Torres]

You can believe in whatever you wish, of course.
And we can doubt whatever we have no proof, of course also.
So everybody is happy.
A lot of veteran brough a lot of pieces made post 1945. Provenience from a veteran is a good sign but not an ultimate proof.

[ErichS]

You can believe in whatever you wish, of course.
And we can doubt whatever we have no proof, of course also.
So everybody is happy.
A lot of veteran brough a lot of pieces made post 1945. Provenience from a veteran is a good sign but not an ultimate proof.