Hi Mil,
Wait for others to chime in 'cause I could be full of it (it wouldnt be a first!) but I still think the bird types/picture sequence in my previous post is correct
"1. It might be my mistake that the 1939 piece might be wrong as it has a gold wash and intended for High Level Political Leaders?"
>SA used silver version of 1939 pattern (except marine SA) Gold 1939 pattern eagle was mostly used by Political leaders with wreath style shown in picture 1
"2. The arrangement of 1936 / 1937 eagle is also different from yours?"
>To me what you show as a 1936 pattern is in fact a 1937 pattern (James also mentions in his post that the 36 pattern was the only eagle facing right) and what you show as a 1937 pattern is not technically a political eagle at all its a 1936 pattern eagle (small version) intended for wear on governement/administrative (beamte) type caps (Post, Forest administration etc etc) and exists in 2 sizes and 2 colours shown in picture 2 (missing the small gold but they are fairly common so I'l get one eventually). In practice however it was probably used as an M36 by some (just like you see SS caps with Heeres eagles) and is often claimed to be an M36 (the shortest lived version) NSDAP eagle but its not. IMO thats why the true 1936 Party eagle (facing right) was quickly reverted back to a left facing the next year because the party boys didnt exactly like the idea of being confused with government admin types (post, Reichbahn, police, customs, forestry and all uniformed goverment including diplomatic corps all wore variations of right facing eagles)
"3. We couldn't decide which year to assign the last SS eagle marked "??" - James has explained to me at length that he classes it as M1936, which I believe he will add on to this."
> The gold 1939 is a very nice variation Political leader (what is the maker/RZM # please? I'll look for one of these!) and the "??" is the ss pattern eagle introduced in 1936 when they adopted their own bird to the best of my knowledge
Take care
JC
Wait for others to chime in 'cause I could be full of it (it wouldnt be a first!) but I still think the bird types/picture sequence in my previous post is correct
"1. It might be my mistake that the 1939 piece might be wrong as it has a gold wash and intended for High Level Political Leaders?"
>SA used silver version of 1939 pattern (except marine SA) Gold 1939 pattern eagle was mostly used by Political leaders with wreath style shown in picture 1
"2. The arrangement of 1936 / 1937 eagle is also different from yours?"
>To me what you show as a 1936 pattern is in fact a 1937 pattern (James also mentions in his post that the 36 pattern was the only eagle facing right) and what you show as a 1937 pattern is not technically a political eagle at all its a 1936 pattern eagle (small version) intended for wear on governement/administrative (beamte) type caps (Post, Forest administration etc etc) and exists in 2 sizes and 2 colours shown in picture 2 (missing the small gold but they are fairly common so I'l get one eventually). In practice however it was probably used as an M36 by some (just like you see SS caps with Heeres eagles) and is often claimed to be an M36 (the shortest lived version) NSDAP eagle but its not. IMO thats why the true 1936 Party eagle (facing right) was quickly reverted back to a left facing the next year because the party boys didnt exactly like the idea of being confused with government admin types (post, Reichbahn, police, customs, forestry and all uniformed goverment including diplomatic corps all wore variations of right facing eagles)
"3. We couldn't decide which year to assign the last SS eagle marked "??" - James has explained to me at length that he classes it as M1936, which I believe he will add on to this."
> The gold 1939 is a very nice variation Political leader (what is the maker/RZM # please? I'll look for one of these!) and the "??" is the ss pattern eagle introduced in 1936 when they adopted their own bird to the best of my knowledge
Take care
JC
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