Would be glad to have your opinions on this one. Thanks in advance.
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seems that this badge still create mixed reactions? http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=444576
The dot pattern is not as usual and the lettering is different. I can see that myself.
Many GPB collectors don't believe in a second pattern enamel disq.
Regards, WimFreedom is not for Free
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Hi Wim,
I'm still not sure what to think of this odd pattern. Weitze had a 1943 AH version for sale last year and we kicked it around on the old GPB forum (now gone). Some liked it, others were skeptical.
I've never had one of these in hand, but I hadn't seen one before last year with the odd stippling under the red enamel and a few other die differences to the wreath and enamel disc. The numbers on your example are bunched up in places.
I am still unconvinced these are not a very new repro, and would be very cautious, although it is pretty convincing.
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Thanks for the input Stephen. It's a weird badge, that's for sure. The leaves are very well made. I don't know of the large Deschler GPB has tiny die flaws in the wreath, like the 24mm version? If that was the case we could compare them somehow. Besides... if it a fake and is not recently made, where does it comes from? We know the good qualtiy reproductions with the number "1" and the Austrian Fuess fake from the 80's. But this is different. Some people buying these expensive badges. Just say "good" or "bad" an move on, is not enough for satisfy a scared owner of these specimen IMO.
Regards, WimFreedom is not for Free
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The WWM seems to be back up. Here is a rougher version with the same enamel centre I'm convinced is a modern fake: http://www.worldwarmilitaria.com/for...ead.php?t=6507
Notice the poor double strike of the wreath - this would never have made it out the door at Deschler. I think the one in this thread is just an improved version with better impressed numbers but the same odd stippling in the red enamel. The pattern of the raised dots under the red is identical.
Here are the photos for those who can't access them:
Last edited by sjl; 06-29-2010, 04:47 PM.
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Originally posted by sjl View PostThe WWM seems to be back up. Here is a rougher version with the same enamel centre I'm convinced is a modern fake: http://www.worldwarmilitaria.com/for...ead.php?t=6507
Notice the poor double strike of the wreath - this would never have made it out the door at Deschler. I think the one in this thread is just an improved version with better impressed numbers but the same odd stippling in the red enamel. The pattern of the raised dots under the red is identical.
Here are the photos for those who can't access them:
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Well I admit that things don't look as good as they did for this GBP but it is scary when the fakers get so many things right. It is also strange that they would bunch the numbers as Stephen points out.
Of course the jury is still out on this one but who would now buy this badge when there are doubts about it...
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