Unknown collartabs SA perhaps??

[Wallace]

Someone has send me these photos of a pair of collartabs.Can someone explain me what these are for an if they are original because they look high quality.

[Wallace]

The back

[Jon. H]

I have heard that they are some kind of Feldherrnhalle higher officer?

Supposed to be extremely rare from what i have heard.

[Wallace]

Thanks.Do they look original to your opinion?

[Jon. H]

I am not the right man to say if they are genuine or not. But they could be,
looks like they are in high quality to me. But again, someone who knows this better will know.

And the set you showed appears to be a higher rank than this one. Guess yours are Gruppenführer or Brigadeführer?


Here is the only example i could find, offered for 2800$

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[Jon. H]

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[Wallace]

Thanka a lot for the help Jon,they sure are great looking tabs don't they

[Gary B]

Hi Patrick,

I am pretty sure that these are 1944 pattern for a Brigadefurher (I believe it is for Brigadefuhrer/equivalent of a General). Bill Shea had a pair for sale a year or so ago.

I am sure one of the SA gurus can confirm or add to my posting.

Gary B

[Wallace]

Thanks a lot for the info Gary.So these where worn by a SA General from the Feldherrnhalle unit.Would be interessting to see these in wear on a photo.

[Seiler]

They are General Staff of the SA . Red .(Gruppenfuhrer?)Berlin.Forties..
Been a long time so maybe close but no banana
Shea had a few sets last year.They are extremely nice AND Rare.
Seiler

[Wallace]

They are General Staff of the SA . Red .(Gruppenfuhrer?)Berlin.Forties..
Been a long time so maybe close but no banana
Shea had a few sets last year.They are extremely nice AND Rare.
Seiler

What do you mean Seiler??Are these fakes or copies??Or real?

[zander]

Hi Patrick

Ive got a feeling they are copies if you look at the ones jon posted the edges of the oak leaves are set out diffrently ,the ones jon posted conform to the ones shown in jill halcombs book,

cheers steve

[Gary B]

Thanks a lot for the info Gary.So these where worn by a SA General from the Feldherrnhalle unit.Would be interessting to see these in wear on a photo.

Patrick,

If you can get a copy of Angolia's SA Insignia book you will find a detailed explanation there. I no longer have my copy. As I mentioned before I believe these are post 1944 pattern.

Gary B

[wewelsburg]

these are also in Fuller's book they are SA high command for Hauptampt.Bottm ones are shown in the book as real.Top ones not sure of.

[Seiler]

What do you mean Seiler??Are these fakes or copies??Or real?

Sorry for being flippant.I had sets just like these some years back.Came from Bill Shea.Jill Halcomb is "Hats"Shea was several hundred $/set
The Angolia book on the SA has several pages on them in wear,
They ARE SA General Staff in Berlin,late war and "Probes" with the RZM buttons
for Manufacturers approval.Not specifically Feldherrenhalle.
Genuine IMO
Seiler