Early Adolf Hitler signature 1923. Original?

[malborghetto]

Hello all,
this is my first post. My english is not the best, so i hope you can understand.
Is that signature an original early one of Adolf Hitler?
Hope anyone can help.
Its written on the backside of a patriotic postcard. Looks good to me.

Postcard is part of a bigger set that inkludes 3 partybooks (1923, 1925, 1933) from a female party member (party number 1576) and some other papers. She was holder of the golden party patch and "alte garde" patch.

Many thanks!

Christian

[malborghetto]

Here a picture of the whole set and inside of partybook from 1925.

[Jon Fish]

Hi Christian,have sent you a pm.I don't think you can post pictures.

[malborghetto]

[malborghetto]

Ok, last try to upload photos.

[Jon Fish]

You beat me to it ! I was going to put the pictures on this morning after sleep! Sick as a dog today with a cold.
Very nice grouping and I actually like the signiture as well,looks a good one. The Alten garde document is interesting,has anyone any more info on these? Is it almost an award for being involved for the putsch/party in 1923 but not eligibal for the Blutorden? kind of recognition of being old gaurd? Do you also have her GPB ?

[malborghetto]

No, i'm sorry. GPB and "Alte Garde" batch is missing.
Maybe interessting too. There are two other original A.H. signatures from 1927in the set.

[der-hase-fee]

Is that signature an original early one of Adolf Hitler?

Christian

Nice grouping, though not "complete" and with condition problems.

[wewelsburg]

But great early sigs just the same!!!

[Panzer Rob]

As I told you last night, I think the sig's are

GREAT grouping to one of the earliest female members of the NSDAP. I absolutely love the early, first pattern Mitgliedsbuch.

I used to own a Mitgliedsbuch and GPB Besitzurkunde to member #332, the lowest female member mitgliedsbuch I have yet to find! I believe this is the second lowest I have seen.



Rob

[malborghetto]

Can anyone say something about the worth of an early A.H. signature?
Or in general about the grouping?

Thanks,

Christian

[Jon Fish]

You might do better splitting the early signiture on the postcard from the group.I would rarely suggest spltting items but there is not any thing that truely ties that piece to the other items.Those other items of course really need to stay together.
Of course its a lovely little grouping as Rob pointed out,however the water damage will have an effect on price and rule out some potential buyers of any such documents. I guess it depends what you have in the group and finding someone who is happy with the documents only. I like the group and would be interested at a reasonable price,as I'm sure others on WAF would be. Perhaps by trade you might do better.

[juoneen]

Someone did a study of hitlers signature over his lifetime. Of course few of us are handwriting experts, but the signature in frame 5 does NOT appear to me to be an original signature. The other ones shown have a better chance IMO. Looks like an attempt to copy it (in 5) . just like fake signature of babe ruth or other sports heroes, an overlay is used to check , and this signature isnt even close. Of course you must decide for yourself till its authenticated by an expert, heres some to compare .
http://rexcurry.net/swastika-socialism4.gif

[Erich B.]

Outstanding grouping--I think I remember seeing this one before. IMO the early AH signature is 100% original.
The timeline of signatures is lifted from Charles Hamilton's first volume of his III Reich autographs book, which is a good reference, however if you compare the early signature with other original examples, I believe you'll see it's fine.
Erich

[CurtD]

Was it common for Hitler to sign membership books?

No one can authenticate a signature from a picture on a computer. An obvious fake can certainly be ruled out, but a professional will require a hands-on inspection.

And what is that German word below his signature? I can't make it out.