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    #76
    Here is a section on the Battle of Coburg from Kurt Ludecke's book "I new Hitler."

    On that day in 1922 Hitler was invited to "German Day" in Coburg and asked to bring a few friends. I have written before that Hitler, if nothing else, was an exceptional opportunist. He rented an entire train and filled it with 800 of his followers (virtually the whole Party) and even bought his own 42 piece band, planning to take the town by storm.

    Ludecke is ecstatic when he writes about what happen in Coburg. Remember, in 1922 Hitler was a nobody on the German national scene; only his fanatical little band of followers thought anything would come of the "little man with the silly mustache. Most Germans had never even seen the swastika! According to Ludecke, "amassed burghers and wide-eyed Jews almost fell out of the express trains which passed them." Hiring the train was a huge bluff, the Nazi party had no money. Every man who climbed on the train bought one or more tickets, often with his last marks.

    Coburg was a town which had long been dominated by Marxists. And the Marxists, of course, wanted no part of the Nazi "foreigners". When the Nazis arrived at Coburg, a uniformed policeman told them they could not march into the city with bands playing or flags flying. The words were music to the "opportunist" ears. Hitler pushed aside the policeman and they marched into the center of town, all flags flying, all instruments blaring. A crowd of thousands threatened to bar their way. No one was sure who these fanatics from Munich were. Suddenly some of the crowd (mostly Marxists) ,began to throw things and a furious fight ensued for perhaps 15 minutes. In time most of the crowd began to join the Nazis and before long they had won over the townspeople. Here, at last, they saw a savior" from the Communist repression. The town officials, of course, were not impressed or happy.

    The next day as the Nazis triurnphantly boarded the train, Hitler was told the "Reds" would not run the train back to Munich. Again, Hitler saw an opportunity. He told the officials that he and his group would run the train themselves, but they would first kidnap every Communist they could find and would take them back to Munich on the commandeered train. What would then happen to the Communists was left to everyone's active imaginations. The Communists capitulated, the train ran. Hitler won!

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      #77
      Hello,

      I finally picked up my Coburg Badge. Quite a nice RZM piece - I wonder what the 189 number struck into the piece below the RZM mark means? Anyway, it was a real treat to pick the piece up from Mr.Steve Wolff's place and see his gallery - he was nice enough to let my wife and I hang around for an hour or so and drink in all the amazing pieces - he is a very friendly and gracious man who is free with his knowledge and advice. Now, it'll probably require years of therapy for me to get over the experience of seeing his collection for the first time!

      Happy Holidays,

      Dirik
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        #78
        Coburg Badge

        And the back with RZM mark and 189 number - the pin is wavy and seems to indicate that this badge was worn quite a bit.

        Cheers,

        Dirik
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          #79
          Hi Dirik, congrats on your very nice CB! Not too many collections have an example of this very rare and desirable badge. Is this a stocking stuffer?

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            #80
            Anytime that I come across an item related to the "Battle of Coburg" its a real treat. A collector has this great post card from the "March" which is VERY rare, but what really makes it special is all the signatures on the reverse. Boy, I wish I owned it!
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              #81
              Wow Erich,great card ! Nice early hitler signiture in there

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                #82
                Originally posted by Jon Fish View Post
                Wow Erich,great card ! Nice early hitler signiture in there
                I only wish it were mine.

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                  #83
                  Originally posted by ErichS View Post
                  I only wish it were mine.
                  As do all of us who realize that Coburg was the clash that brought the NSDAP into history. A crushing defeat in Coburg many have left the NSDAP as a footnote in a dusty tome.

                  Bob Hritz
                  In the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king.

                  Duct tape can't fix stupid, but it can muffle the sound.

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                    #84
                    Originally posted by Bob Hritz View Post
                    As do all of us who realize that Coburg was the clash that brought the NSDAP into history. A crushing defeat in Coburg many have left the NSDAP as a footnote in a dusty tome.

                    Bob Hritz
                    Very true Bob, hence the importance of this award in NSDAP lore.

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                      #85
                      I'm posting this fine and very rare 1st type Coburg Badge for Member Coburg. Thanks for contributing your fantastic badge to this thread! Best, Erich
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                        #86
                        Holders of the Coburg Badge- 453 (period list + other DAL confirmed)

                        Karl Abele
                        Heinz Ahlborn
                        Otto Albrecht / SS-Untersturmführer
                        Max Amann / Reichsleiter / SS-Obergruppenführer
                        Hermann Anton
                        Johann Auer / SS-Obersturmführer

                        Hermann von Bach zu Hombergk
                        Michael Baier
                        Josef Balthasar
                        Ludwig Barth
                        Robert Barth
                        Marta Bartosch / Female Recipient
                        Hans Batz / SS-Sturmbannführer (Listed in DAL but not original List)
                        Hans Bauer
                        Erich Bauer
                        Wilhelm Baur / SS-Standartenführer
                        Johann Bäumer / SS-Sturmbannführer
                        Anton Bäurle
                        Heinrich Bauschen
                        Franz Bayer
                        Hans Beck
                        Otto Bechmann
                        Paul Behringer
                        Heinrich Bennecke / SA-Obergruppenführer
                        Johannes Berenbrock
                        Ernst Bergdolt
                        Victor von Berg
                        Emil Berger
                        Ernst Bernhard
                        Wilhelm Biller
                        Theodor Birkner
                        Franz Boeser
                        Guenther Bosse
                        Manfred Böttger
                        Heinz Brall
                        Karl Brassler
                        Alois Braun / SS-Sturmbannführer
                        Luitpold Braun
                        Rudolf Brehm
                        Hermann Bremer
                        Hans Breu
                        Wilhelm Briemann Sr.
                        Wilhelm Briemann Jr.
                        Franz Brunn
                        Alfons Bründl
                        Walter Buch / Reichsleiter u. SS-Obergruppenführer
                        Paul Buchhold
                        Eduard Buchmann
                        Richard Büchner
                        Hans Burger

                        Heinz Coenen / SS-Obersturmführer
                        Franz Danner
                        Kurt Datz
                        Hans Dähn / SS-Untersturmführer
                        Wilhelm Däter
                        Georg Demmel
                        Benedikt Dietenhauser
                        Hans Dietrich / SS-Standartenführer
                        Josef Dippert
                        Ignaz Dirschl
                        Gustav Dittner
                        Josef Doll
                        Marcell Dollmann
                        Anton Dorsch
                        Fritz Dorsch
                        Anton Dosser
                        Georg Dosser
                        Reginald Douglas
                        Julius Dreschler
                        Druckenbrod, (First Name Missing)
                        Heinz Dürr
                        Alois Duschl

                        Adolf Eberhart
                        Josef Eberle
                        Ernst Eckardt
                        Hermann Edler
                        Max Eggerdinger / SS-Standartenführer
                        Karl Eggers
                        Leopold Ehrentreich
                        Johannes Erhardt / SS-Obersturmführer (Listed in DAL but not original List)
                        Frau Therese Esslinger / Female Recipient
                        Karl Eisenbeiss
                        Fritz Eitel
                        Richard Etbauer

                        Hugo von Fabris
                        Emil Fatsch
                        Otto Feichtmayr / SS-Standartenführer
                        Karl Fischer
                        Otto Fischer
                        Willy Otto Flügel
                        Heinrich Foerster
                        Josef Forstmaier
                        Andreas Förz
                        Max Franke
                        Karl Fritsch / SS-Brigadeführer
                        Franz Fuchs
                        Simon Füss / SS-Standartenführer

                        Erich Gärtner
                        Otto Gerber
                        Wilhelm Geromiller
                        Anton Gerum
                        Hanns Gierbauer
                        A. Gierer
                        Hans Glas
                        Gustav Gnezel
                        Walter Göbert
                        Paul Göbel / SS-Hauptsturmführer
                        Kurt Gotthans
                        Ulrich Graf / SS-Brigadeführer
                        Hans Gräb
                        Adhemar Gräse
                        Karl Grams
                        Jakob Greinwald
                        Josef Grepmaier
                        Fritz Griebel
                        Jakob Grimminger / SS-Standartenführer
                        Siegfried Gross / SS-Obersturmführer
                        Ferdinand Groth / SS-Untersturmführer
                        Ferdinand Gruber
                        Alois Gurr

                        Walter Haensch
                        J.E. Hagedorn
                        Erhard Hager / SS-Hauptsturmführer (Listed in DAL but not original List)
                        Max Hauer
                        Franz Haumannstetter
                        Hans Haug
                        Anton Hauser
                        Friedrich Hauser
                        Willi Herr
                        Frau Maria Heiden / Female Recipient
                        Adolf Heinle
                        Adolf Heinlein
                        Oskar Heines
                        Walter Heitmüller
                        Wilhelm Held
                        Otto Hellmuth / Gauleiter
                        Walter Hellvoigt
                        Karl Henniger
                        Oskar Herterich
                        Josef Hilbe
                        Karl Hilger
                        Hans Hillen
                        Hugo Hilz
                        Willy Himpel
                        Paul Hirschberg / SS-Standartenführer
                        Herbert Hochgrassl / SS-Untersturmführer
                        Otto Höchner
                        Arthur Hofmann
                        Klaus Hofmann
                        Paul Hofmann
                        Albert Höfler
                        Karl Hofmeister
                        Friedrich Holzinger
                        Homburg, (First Name Missing)
                        Karl Hörmann
                        Bernhard Hörmann
                        Anton Huber / SS-Obersturmführer (Listed in DAL but not original List)
                        Hans Huber
                        Josef Huber / SS-Obersturmführer
                        Gustav Hubschmann / SS-Obersturmführer (Listed in DAL but not original List)
                        Paul Hufeisen
                        Bruno Hurler

                        Otto Jahn
                        Richard Jahnke
                        Alois Jegg
                        Heinrich Jordan
                        Philipp Jungwirth
                        Johannes Junghänsel

                        Fritz Kaiser
                        Erich Kaufmann
                        Josef Kaufmann
                        Karl Kellner
                        Daniel Kessler
                        Karl Kessler
                        Karl Kessler / (There are two Karl Kessler's on the original List)
                        Otto Kettenbeil
                        Karl Artur Kez
                        Hanns Keifer
                        Christoph Kind
                        Georg Kindseder
                        Heinz Kiessling
                        E. Klein
                        Georg Klein
                        Wilhelm Klemm
                        August Klett
                        Hans Klintzsch
                        Heinrich Klos
                        Ernst Knauer
                        Hans Knopf
                        Heinrich Kolb /SS-Obersturmführer
                        Eduard Koller
                        Ernst Kopfmann
                        Friedrich Körner
                        Wilhelm Kranz
                        Wilhelm Kratz
                        Hans Kress
                        Konrad Kress
                        Hermann Kriegelsteiner
                        August Kritzmöller
                        Anton Kroisz
                        Wilhelm Kroisi
                        Hugo Kroll
                        Otto Kubasch
                        Ludwig Kuchler
                        Ernst Kuhn
                        Adam Küpfer
                        Friedrich Küpfer
                        Hans Kuttner
                        Rudolf Kutzner

                        Oskar Lahr / SS-Untersturmführer
                        Ludwig Lochermaier
                        Eugen Lang
                        Erich Larche / SS-Untersturmführer
                        Toni Lehner
                        Adolf Lenk
                        Paul Lenk
                        Max Karl Lenke
                        Franz Lenz
                        Hans Lenz
                        P.W. Lenz
                        Alfred Liebermann
                        Theodor Lindner
                        Max Link
                        Hans Link
                        Georg Linke
                        Carl Löffler
                        Rudolf Lohse / SS-Brigadeführer
                        Anton Loibl /SS-Hauptsturmführer (Listed on DAL but not original List)
                        Hermann Loew
                        Frank Lyck

                        Josef Maier
                        Robert Malter /SS-Obersturmführer
                        Karl Manetstätter
                        Karl Matthes
                        Paul Matthes
                        Emil Maurice / SS-Oberführer
                        Hermann Mayer
                        Josef Mayer
                        Ernst Mälzer
                        Fritz Meisel
                        Hans Mendl
                        Carl Menge
                        Johannes Menzel
                        Emil Metz
                        Willy Meyer
                        Carl Michel
                        Herbert Michel
                        Ottmar Mintzel
                        Franz Moos
                        Oskar Möslein
                        Erich Mötz
                        Anton Mühl
                        Alfred Müller / SS-Standartenführer
                        Christian Müller
                        Georg Müller /SS-Obersturmführer (Listed in DAL but not original List)
                        Hans Herbert Müller
                        Heinrich Müller / SS-Untersturmführer
                        Hans Münderlein
                        Albert Munk
                        Martin Mutschmann

                        Paul Nafe
                        Oskar Neff
                        Georg Neidl
                        Paul Netzer
                        Josef Neumaier
                        Karl Neumann

                        Oskar Obermayer
                        Eberhard Oechsle
                        Hermann Oesper
                        Karl Ostberg

                        Louise Pahlke / Female Recipient
                        Albert Penzkofer
                        Josef Pertl / SS-Untersturmführer
                        Paul Pfahter
                        Josef Pickl
                        Edmund Pilger
                        Josef Pillmaier
                        Georg Popp
                        Theodor Poschet
                        Johann Prent
                        Emil Petzendorfer
                        Max Probst

                        Hans Rappl
                        Eugen Rauser
                        Hermann Räppold
                        W. Rehm
                        Wilhelm Reichs
                        Franz Reitz
                        Karl Remmel / SS-Sturmbannführer
                        Fritz Richter
                        August Rieger
                        Josef Riggauer
                        P.E. Rings
                        Eduard Ristelhuber
                        Max von Rode-Diezels
                        Hans Röhrl / SS-Obersturmbannführer
                        Walter Rose
                        Anton Rossa
                        Eduard Röss
                        Alfred Rosenberg / Reichsminister
                        Georg Rosenbauer
                        Willy Rott
                        Adolf Rottenberger
                        Edmund Rudolph
                        Hans Rudolph
                        Willi Rupprecht
                        Ferdinand Rüth

                        Theo Saillierg / SS-Obersturmführer (Listed in DAL but not original List)
                        Edmund Sander
                        Fritz Sauckel / Gauleiter / SS-Obergruppenführer
                        Karl Schaal / SS-Obersturmführer
                        Hans Schack
                        Josef Schäffer
                        Heinrich Schaller
                        A. Scharr
                        Julius Schaub / SS-Obergruppenführer
                        Carl Schegk
                        Otto Schierhorn
                        Georg Schiller
                        Rudolf Schindhelm
                        Hans Schinner
                        Wilhelm Schlosser
                        Gustav Schmid
                        Josef Schmid
                        Ludwig Schmied
                        Friedrich Schmidt
                        Helmut Schmidt / SS-Obersturmführer
                        Hugo Schmidt
                        Louis Schmidt
                        Robert Schmidt
                        Rudi Schmidt
                        Siegfried Schmidt
                        Gottfried Schmitt
                        Karl Schmitt
                        Julian Schmittner
                        Karl Schmutterer
                        Ludwig Schneider
                        Xaver Schnell
                        Albert Schneider
                        E.H. Schneider
                        Heinrich Schneider
                        Georg Schön
                        Julius Schreck /SS-Brigadeführer
                        Max Schroth
                        Adolf Schulte
                        August Schultheiss / SS-Obersturmbannführer (Listed in DAL but not original List)
                        Fritz Schulz
                        Arthur Schumann
                        Karl Schunk
                        Josef Schuster / SS-Untersturmführer
                        Franz Schwarzer
                        Franz Schwede-Coburg / Gauleiter (Recipient but not on Original List)
                        J. Karl Schwertek
                        Georg Schweinbeck
                        Theodor Schwindl
                        Franz Schrafstetter
                        Fritz Seidel
                        Alfred Seidler
                        Franz Seidlmeier
                        Georg Seidenschwang
                        Gustav Seifert / SS-Hauptsturmführer
                        Franz Seitz / SS-Untersturmführer
                        Hans Serfling
                        Jakob Sidler
                        Friedrich Simeth
                        Johann Singer
                        Franz Six / SS-Sturmbannführer
                        Pia Sponseil / Schwester Pia
                        Walter Sperhake
                        Theo von Sperl / SS-Obersturmführer
                        Fritz Sressmayer
                        Fritz Stahl
                        Otto Stahl
                        Waldemar Stahl
                        Franz Stark / SS-Obersturmführer (Listed in DAL but not Original List)
                        Bernhard Stauber
                        Lorenz Stauch
                        Karl Staudhammer / SS-Sturmbannführer
                        Hans Staudinger
                        Hans Staudt
                        Hans Staudte
                        Otto Steinbeisser /SS-Untersturmführer
                        Herbert Stelzig
                        Paul Stemmer
                        Karl Stieglitz
                        Hanns Stock / SS-Sturmbannführer
                        Richard Stock / SS-Sturmbannführer
                        Udo Stoess
                        Emil Strassner / SS-Untersturmführer (LIsted in DAL but not Original List)
                        Julius Streicher /Gauleiter
                        Josef Ströhlein
                        Anton Stühler
                        Paul Summa
                        Erich Sünderhauf

                        Hans Tallner
                        August Teichert
                        Wilhelm Thäle
                        Gustav Adolf Theobald
                        Hildolf Freiherr von Thüngen / SS-Oberführer
                        Fr. Tiedemann
                        Otto Tippel
                        Fritz Tittmann / SS-Brigadeführer
                        Hans Titus
                        Heinz Tresselt / SS-Hauptsturmführer (Listed in DAL but not Original List)
                        Erich Trunzer

                        Guenther Vater
                        Paul Vierhus
                        Willy Vitzthum
                        Johann Vodermaier
                        Karl Vogt
                        Anton Voll

                        Franz Wacker
                        Ernst Wagner
                        Pius Wagner
                        Karl Walter
                        Ludwig Waltl
                        Theo Wasnderer
                        Christian Weber / SS-Brigadeführer
                        Johann Weber
                        Josef Weber / SS-Standartenführer
                        Kurt Weber
                        Hans Wegelin
                        Nikolaus Wehner
                        Willy Wiedermann /SS-Brigadeführer
                        Georg Weidinger
                        Rudolf Weigl
                        Carl Weiss
                        Fritz Weitzel / SS-Obergruppenführer (Shows being awarded in his Personalakte but not on original List)
                        Bruno Wenzel
                        Berhard Werner
                        Georg Wiborg
                        Wicklein, (Missing First Name)
                        Karl Wienecke
                        Georg Will
                        Willy Willert
                        Albrecht Winkler
                        Anton Winkler
                        Johann Winkler
                        Joachim Wirth
                        Karl Wirtmann /SS-Untersturmführer
                        Rudolf Wittmer
                        Rudolf Wohlleben
                        Jakob Wolf
                        Karl Wörlein / SS-Untersturmführer
                        Hans Wutz

                        Anton Zahner
                        Otto Zangenmeister
                        Walter Zeichner
                        Emanuel Zoschke
                        Hans Zoberlein

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                          #87
                          Thanks for posting that, Mark!
                          So, it appears there were only a few names added via DAL info?
                          Erich
                          Festina lente!

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                            #88
                            Originally posted by ErichS View Post
                            I'm posting this fine and very rare 1st type Coburg Badge for Member Coburg. Thanks for contributing your fantastic badge to this thread! Best, Erich
                            Erich,

                            "Coburg" has got his pictures mixed up. The obverse shown in post#85 is MY 2nd pattern shown in post#14! I think that the post needs editing as it is not a 1st pattern obverse that it claims to be. I am sure that this is an innocent mistake.


                            Stan

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                              #89
                              Thank you Mark. It continually plays on my mind,why oh why didnt they think of issue numbering these important awards like they would do years later with the Blood Order
                              Maybe simply the cost of the stamping or the admnistration of a list [but they already had this put together]?

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                                #90
                                Originally posted by Stan View Post
                                Erich,

                                "Coburg" has got his pictures mixed up. The obverse shown in post#85 is MY 2nd pattern shown in post#14! I think that the post needs editing as it is not a 1st pattern obverse that it claims to be. I am sure that this is an innocent mistake.


                                Stan
                                Stan, I posted the photos that Jim had sent me, so I'm not sure when the mix up happened. Maybe Jim will respond.

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