hj trumpet / bugle

[stuart a.]

hi all
found this on a dealers site seems to be reasonably priced question is is it good as i have had no dealings with these but have allways wanted one ,where these ever copied and what is a reasonable price
thanks
stuart

[stuart a.]

close up of the eagle
stu

[stuart a.]

nobody

[Bob Coleman]

Stuart-
From The Images, I Believe The Fanfar Trumpet Is Original. The Embossed Eagle On The Piece Clsely Resembles Examples I Have Seen On Bugles. With It In Hand, You Must Be The Final Jucge If It Is 60+ Years Old

[Vid]

I have seen the bugles, but rarely the trumpets. It looks correct and a standard banner would fit real nice on that.

Don't know the price or value, but if reasonable I think I would be o.k with it. My question is was it plated or is that the original finish???.

Most of these were brass, at least the few I remember seeing. But even if it was, hell its brass underneath.

Jmo

[Ron Weinand]

The one thing that bothers me is why is there a scroll over the eagle? Does it have a number on the scroll or is this a copy of a bann flag eagle that someone who didn't know the meaning of the scroll used for the design of the eagle? I have never seen a bugle with this scroll on the design used on the bugle.
Ron Weinand

[stuart a.]

im still unsure seller wnats £195 not a lot of cash but a lot if its no good
stu

[stuart a.]

asked seller about the marking above the eagle and apparently its the makers name sent pics but they are far from good but apparently it says
J.Less Musik Klingenthale i.Sa.

anyway to find out if this is a period nmaker of these trumpets
stu

p.s heres the pic anyway

[stuart a.]

another eagle pic

[Erich B.]

It looks promising. The one thing that's not there is the reinforcing collar around the bell of the horn. I've seen some signal horns and fanfare trumpets on dealer sites and tables without it, but 99% have it. The HJ insignia looks okay to me--I'll look at one of my signal horns to check, but I believe they all have the scroll above.
It would also be helpful to see the style of the connectors holding the coils of tubing apart. The new ones are made fairly cheaply with a 'u' shaped flat piece of brass, whereas the older ones have a fancier support.
Erich

[Erich B.]

I suspect the name is Hess, which was a large music store that advertised heavily in period magazines and newspapers.
Erich

[stuart a.]

hi erich
thanks for the info did you dig out any photos of the symbol on a trumprt with the ribbon on tiop
stu

[Erich B.]

Here is the HJ eagle on a Signalhorn.
Erich

[stuart a.]

eagles look identical maybe this is a good one afterall
stu

[Erich B.]

For the price, I'd go for it!
Erich