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    #31
    Originally posted by Mike TM View Post
    Prague March. 1939. Kapelle Hilfszug Bayern.
    regards Mike
    Thanks, Mike TM.
    To be honest I did not know they had their own band. This is not mention in any of the information I do have.
    It is a real pity the photos is blurr. Can you make out what is written upon the big drum?

    When I look at the photo and do count all persons playing an instrument, it seems that practiacally all
    from the unit must have played an instrument. The unit was not that big (I thought just Sturm-size).

    I did not know either they were at Prague, but I could have expected is, as they also were at Vienna (1938)
    and Poland (1940), as well as in Belgium (1940) I thought.
    Last edited by wilhelm Saris; 05-15-2020, 08:44 AM.

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      #32
      It's the info of the back of photo. I hope it does not lie. I can't see the inscription on drum.

      regards
      Mike

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        #33
        For some film footage of the Hilfszug Bayern in action see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppIUkONAKBA It's from 39:40 to to 42:00, although the whole documentary (about the history of Third Reich-era television) is well worth watching.

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          #34
          HZB and HWNW

          Very interesting film.
          Thank you
          Regards
          Holzwurm

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            #35
            There was also a Beamten-Hilfszug Bayern. I have a booklet of it. Maybe that it is the initial organization or a part of the classic Hilfszug Bayern ?

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              #36
              Originally posted by Reinhard2 View Post
              There was also a Beamten-Hilfszug Bayern. I have a booklet of it. Maybe that it is the initial organization or a part of the classic Hilfszug Bayern ?

              That is the same, as the Hilfszug-Bayern was in its beginnings created by the Beamtenbund.
              I will have a look as I thought they financed the HZB when it was created. I may have a photo from that period.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Reinhard2 View Post
                There was also a Beamten-Hilfszug Bayern. I have a booklet of it. Maybe that it is the initial organization or a part of the classic Hilfszug Bayern ?
                You mean this one? It is as I mentioned.

                Beamten 001.jpg

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                  #38
                  Hzb

                  Hello
                  Here is a picture from Sturmbannführer
                  Alarich Seidler wich founded the HZB.
                  Regards
                  Holzwurm
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by holzwurm_1920 View Post
                    Hello, Here is a picture from Sturmbannführer
                    Alarich Seidler wich founded the HZB. Regards, Holzwurm
                    Interesting to know finally Seidler's Christian name. Thanks, I didn't know that. The HZB was his idea and got the order to work out his idea.
                    In volume 4 from the headgear-series I do have another photo of Seidler and Hitler (Himmler is not standing nearby).
                    The leader of the unit in 1934 was Sturmführer Doppler. The funds for the HZB were coming from the NS-Beamtenschaft.

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                      #40
                      Alarich Seidler

                      Here are more pictures from Sturmbannführer Seidler.
                      This pictures are only copies from the original pictures.
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by holzwurm_1920 View Post
                        Here are more pictures from Sturmbannführer Seidler.
                        This pictures are only copies from the original pictures.
                        Great to see these. The upper photo is in one of my books. I think I got it from an early booklet about the HZB.

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                          #42
                          Hzb

                          Hello
                          Here are some more pictures from the HZB
                          Regards
                          Holzwurm
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                            #43
                            Originally posted by holzwurm_1920 View Post
                            Hello, Here are some more pictures from the HZB
                            Regards Holzwurm
                            Great Holzwurm, thanks for showing. I had seen them in black and white and in a very small size. I Always thought the symbol had red in it and so it is with these photos.

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                              #44
                              Have you seen this book? Was auktioneed last year. I have only seen the cover, but seems great.

                              regards
                              Mike
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by Mike TM View Post
                                Have you seen this book? Was auktioneed last year. I have only seen the cover, but seems great. regards Mike
                                No, I did not see this booklet, but am aware of another smaller booklet about the subject, which is most interesting.
                                A pity I missed it, as I have quite some information about both of the organizations. Seidler was the creator.

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