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    #16
    Originally posted by Mike TM View Post
    Very interesting photos, thanks for sharing.

    Regards
    Mike
    Sorry Mike TM, that I partially took over your thread, but the subject is most interesting and many are not aware of that!
    The structures for HZB and RAZ, along with the Propagandaleitung der NSDAP, lead to the Reichsschatzmeister Schwarz.
    Later the HZB took care for helping out with feeding at Austria, Poland and in Germany as well. The uniforms and its
    insignia are extremely rare to find and by most unknown!
    Last edited by wilhelm Saris; 05-07-2020, 05:51 AM.

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      #17
      Originally posted by holzwurm_1920 View Post
      Here is a pictures of fantastic RAZ tabs.
      No mine.
      I have a set of tabs--these might be mine, but I have to dig them out to check.
      Erich
      Festina lente!

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        #18
        I'll check with the moderators of this section to see if this thread can be moved to the political forum, which would be a better fit.
        Erich
        Festina lente!

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          #19
          I love those Raz Tabs ..
          Wish they were mine

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            #20
            Here is a view of the main facility of the Hilfszug Bayern from a book of NSDAP buildings in Munich.
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              #21
              Originally posted by JoeW View Post
              Here is a view of the main facility of the Hilfszug Bayern from a book of NSDAP buildings in Munich.
              Thanks Joe. Maybe I will post more photos from the same occasion, which I do have in my files.
              Some are with Schwarz, the Reichsschatzmeister. I also have good photos from the worn uniform
              (some were included in one of the volumes for the headgear-series).

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                #22
                Originally posted by wilhelm Saris View Post
                Thanks Joe. Maybe I will post more photos from the same occasion, which I do have in my files.
                Some are with Schwarz, the Reichsschatzmeister. I also have good photos from the worn uniform
                (some were included in one of the volumes for the headgear-series).
                The first photo from the Hilfszug Bayern is practically the same one as from the book, but note the leader in front of the troop!
                The others all are from the same event/day when Schwarz was visiting and to inspect where his money went.
                I have more, but this should be okay and more then enough. I marked the photos as WS. They came from a German archive.

                I also have quite a number of photos from the Reichsautozug Deutschland when they were visited and inspected.

                The last photo shows the wearing of the cuffband Hilfszug Bayern (courtesy Alain Taugourdeau).

                As mentioned: various of these photos one can find in the volume 3 and 4 from the series "Headgear of Hitlers Germany"
                and so some are known now to the collecting world!!

                HZB 12-05 -1-.jpg

                HZB 12-05- -2-.jpg

                HZB 12-05--3-.jpg

                HZB 12-05 -4-.jpg

                HZB 12-05--5-.jpg

                HZB 12-05- -6-.jpg

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                  #23
                  Fantastic photos and info everyone. Wim, thank you for the details about this often unknown, and forgotten part of the TR!

                  Sydney

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by squidney86 View Post
                    Fantastic photos and info everyone. Wim, thank you for the details about this often unknown, and forgotten part of the TR!

                    Sydney
                    That is my favorite subject: hardly or unknown organizations from the TR and so I brought some of them into an article (Zollflieger, the Grosses
                    Militäir-Waisenhaus, Forstschutzkommando and so on). In the "Military Advisor" one can find them, but also sometimes in German magazines
                    as "Militaria" or so.

                    I gathered all the material as I planned an article for the HZB and RAZ, but due to the masses I was not able to bring it in a proper size for publishing.
                    In my books about the headgear-series I have told about the organizations (volumes 3 and 4). One can consult them for the interesting information!

                    Normally I would not have shown the material, but as I am planning to end my writings (I mentiond this before) I see no need to keep them away from
                    the collectors. I am still considering what to do with my material (given it away, into the shredder with it or what). I am getting older and older and will
                    not live forever.
                    It is further a pity that people ask me specific things and then there is later no reaction! Not even a "thank you" for my efforts! This sometimes withholds
                    me from showing other material.
                    Last edited by wilhelm Saris; 05-13-2020, 03:10 AM.

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                      #25
                      thank you wilhelm saris

                      thank you Wilhelm saris for the infomation and photos from not so well known org i mean ve all known sa krigsmarine luftwaffe but not this org

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by abigor View Post
                        thank you Wilhelm saris for the infomation and photos from not so well known org i mean ve all known sa krigsmarine luftwaffe but not this org
                        Luftwaffe, Heer, Kriegsmarine and SS are the organizations people are interested in most often (that is also what most do collect),
                        but they forget the many organizations that are not so well-known, but even more interesting, due to uniforms, insignia and facilities.

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                          #27
                          Originally posted by wilhelm Saris View Post
                          It is further a pity that people ask me specific things and then there is later no reaction! Not even a "thank you" for my efforts! This sometimes withholds
                          me from showing other material.
                          Unfortunately, this is pretty common--not necessarily on this forum, although sometimes, but in general it happens frequently.
                          I'll post some of my photos as soon as I have time to scan them. Mine are mostly detail shots of the vehicles themselves.
                          Thanks Wim!
                          Erich
                          Festina lente!

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                            #28
                            Originally posted by Erich B. View Post
                            Unfortunately, this is pretty common--not necessarily on this forum, although sometimes, but in general it happens frequently.
                            I'll post some of my photos as soon as I have time to scan them. Mine are mostly detail shots of the vehicles themselves. Thanks Wim! Erich
                            I know Erich. This happens on all forums, but luckily not at WRF anymore as I am banned there.

                            I also have quite some vehicle photos, which I got from the company many years ago. It all are press-photos with the information for the vehicle from HZB and RAZ.
                            The subject is intriging and exiting!

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                              #29
                              Originally posted by wilhelm Saris View Post
                              I also have quite some vehicle photos, which I got from the company many years ago. It all are press-photos with the information for the vehicle from HZB and RAZ
                              .

                              Here a sample of how I got my material with information: one HZB and one RAZ.
                              I may have 25 or so in my files.

                              hzb 14-05 001.jpg

                              raz 14-05 001.jpg

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                                #30
                                Prague March. 1939. Kapelle Hilfszug Bayern.


                                regards
                                Mike
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