Landwacht arm band

[uroš]

Hi! Friend got this armand and he would like to ask you if it is original or copy? (click on the pictures to enlarge them).

Thank you!

[JoeW]

A copy.

[kyles bullets]

I personally like it. Crude like these usually are

[RonR]

Here is a good one.....


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[RonR]

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[RonR]

It was part of the "Police Cache" acquired a number of years ago from the deceased Veteran's son..........


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[kyles bullets]

Another one

[uroš]

So the one I posted is not ok? It is hand sewn. Was that the case with original ones or they were all machine sewn?

[kyles bullets]

Construction varies on these greatly, but they weren't strictly machine sewn. They were locally made so there is lots of differences. On Ron's other example (Hope you don't mind Ron) you can see the green stripes (most likely some type of local rank) are hand sewn on.

[JoeW]

I personally like it. Crude like these usually are

Yes it is crude.And it is also stamped with the commonly repro'd "Der Polizeiprasident in Regensburg" stamp which is a no-no. Kyle, notice that your original example is marked with the authority stamp of a Landrat- a county supervisor who would have authority over the Landwacht of his county. Ron's Stadtwacht armband is stamped with a Polizeiprasident Mannheim stamp as it should be as the Stadtwacht assisted the Schupo (green stripes).

[Dave C.]

Yes it is crude.And it is also stamped with the commonly repro'd "Der Polizeiprasident in Regensburg" stamp which is a no-no. Kyle, notice that your original example is marked with the authority stamp of a Landrat- a county supervisor who would have authority over the Landwacht of his county. Ron's Stadtwacht armband is stamped with a Polizeiprasident Mannheim stamp as it should be as the Stadtwacht assisted the Schupo (green stripes).

Excellent points made, I agree 100%.

[kyles bullets]

Yes it is crude.And it is also stamped with the commonly repro'd "Der Polizeiprasident in Regensburg" stamp which is a no-no. Kyle, notice that your original example is marked with the authority stamp of a Landrat- a county supervisor who would have authority over the Landwacht of his county. Ron's Stadtwacht armband is stamped with a Polizeiprasident Mannheim stamp as it should be as the Stadtwacht assisted the Schupo (green stripes).

If something is commonly reproed does that make all of them fake? Or is this a known fantasy stamp?

I don't know police structure, but what I get out of it is that a landwacht armband shouldn't have a police president stamp? Only a stamp that mentions "Landrat"?

Also, the green stripes make these Schupo related? I've wondered for a while what these green stripes meant if that's what you mean.

[JoeW]

If something is commonly reproed does that make all of them fake? Or is this a known fantasy stamp?

I don't know police structure, but what I get out of it is that a landwacht armband shouldn't have a police president stamp? Only a stamp that mentions "Landrat"?

Also, the green stripes make these Schupo related? I've wondered for a while what these green stripes meant if that's what you mean.

The police president stamp of this city has been reproduced often in the past, so that is a warning shot.

Learn some basic organizational facts if you are going to collect police armbands. Stadtwacht is city guard/hilfspolizei; Landwacht is county guard/hilfspolizei. in a simplistic explanation, a Polizeiprasident ran the city police force and a Landrat ran the county police organizations.

While I have not found any directive specifically mentioning green stripes on Stadtwacht armbands and in fact have a Stadtwacht one without green, the association with the Schupo is obvious to me.

[kyles bullets]

The police president stamp of this city has been reproduced often in the past, so that is a warning shot.

Learn some basic organizational facts if you are going to collect police armbands. Stadtwacht is city guard/hilfspolizei; Landwacht is county guard/hilfspolizei. in a simplistic explanation, a Polizeiprasident ran the city police force and a Landrat ran the county police organizations.

While I have not found any directive specifically mentioning green stripes on Stadtwacht armbands and in fact have a Stadtwacht one without green, the association with the Schupo is obvious to me.

All my comment was meant to be was that just because there is many fakes, doesnt mean all are instant fakes. After the facts you have provided, I will take back my opinion and say that this one is a fake. I feel its a pretty good fake, as if you don't know police structure like me, then you would never know.

I never had a reason to go in dept into the police, as I do not collect police specifically. So I feel there was no reason to go deep into polizei structure like this.

Thanks for the possible relation. I have seen landwacht with a pinkish color stripe as well. Any possible idea as to what they would designate?